cervantesscthree
Don Juan
Girls or betas? These days I'd rather (do) prefer working/hanging around with girls then I do with these beta males. Anyone else feel the same?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Girls or Betas?
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
DragonBlood
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Oh yeah I feel the same way. I know this sites all about the ABCs but I completely agree.
At first I use to tolerate beta negativity and boring (if non-existent) conversation with guys like this. Cant quite escape that feeling that they are a bit too hot under the collar to trust. Hard to hold a conversation with and easily offended. Every time you DO manage to open a beta it always goes the same way, them telling you how depressed they are and how unfair the world is bla bla blah. meh.
I much prefer girls even just for company as I can relax and be myself. Even the worst of them doesnt give you as hard a time as a group of awkward betas. I dont have to put on a show and guard my true beliefs.
At first I use to tolerate beta negativity and boring (if non-existent) conversation with guys like this. Cant quite escape that feeling that they are a bit too hot under the collar to trust. Hard to hold a conversation with and easily offended. Every time you DO manage to open a beta it always goes the same way, them telling you how depressed they are and how unfair the world is bla bla blah. meh.
I much prefer girls even just for company as I can relax and be myself. Even the worst of them doesnt give you as hard a time as a group of awkward betas. I dont have to put on a show and guard my true beliefs.
cervantesscthree
Don Juan
Dragon Blood +1, you just spoke hot fire there. I couldn't have said it better, hard to believe that being ourselves is just kicking back and being a cool mofo that girls love, but betas envy. That last line you put too, you took the thoughts out my mind and typed them right up.DragonBlood said:
I also find it annoying when they constantly try to attack my interaction with women, calling me too "aggressive" or saying that I "fancy every girl I speak too.
Working in groups with women is better than with betas from my experience also. The women just enjoy a (sane) alphas company, while the betas I've worked with, end up viewing working with me as an opportunity to test their masculinity e.g trying to make fun of me, and sometimes, some even attempt to gang up on me. It's sad in all honesty and I don't blame them. Although nothing beats getting with the girl they all said was the hottest in the group
Don't want to get into beta bashing but it's nice knowing I aint the only one dealing with the epidemic proportion of chumps out there.
PlayHer Man
Banned
Agree.
They are faggots. Try to enlighten them and they get offended. They don't want to listen to wisdom and most of them have made a conscious decision to embrace the blue pill because its what they know and its what they're used to. Its like telling someone their religion is bullsh!t. Totally useless.
You can totally benefit from associations and affiliations with beta fags (just like women do). However.. there is no point in trying to bond. They are too ignorant and sensitive to make good male friends.
They are faggots. Try to enlighten them and they get offended. They don't want to listen to wisdom and most of them have made a conscious decision to embrace the blue pill because its what they know and its what they're used to. Its like telling someone their religion is bullsh!t. Totally useless.
You can totally benefit from associations and affiliations with beta fags (just like women do). However.. there is no point in trying to bond. They are too ignorant and sensitive to make good male friends.
cervantesscthree
Don Juan
Yr on point PlayHer Man, they make sh*t friends and trying to feed them the red pill is a dirty job that pays little and is rarely or never worth the effort. But it's so hard not to give someone the truth no matter how many times they burn you for it.
These guys are basically women in a way, but far harder to deal with since they're not the genuine vagina provider. That said, society is breeding these guys to be pussies, so their choice of belief in this matter is forced on them the second they breathe air. As it was on all of us. Just a shame the ones who can see it have to live amongst the blind, the complacent and the ignorant who still can't.
These guys are basically women in a way, but far harder to deal with since they're not the genuine vagina provider. That said, society is breeding these guys to be pussies, so their choice of belief in this matter is forced on them the second they breathe air. As it was on all of us. Just a shame the ones who can see it have to live amongst the blind, the complacent and the ignorant who still can't.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I feel what I'm lacking right now is a good group of guy friends. I had this about 2 years back, but then I moved and I've sort of been a loner ever since. When I had a core group of guys I hung out with, we had some epic nights out and I just had more access to women as they were as h0rny as I was lol. We went on fun trips and crashed parties…it was just fun.
With girls, yeah it's fun if there's sexy time but you can't talk to them about certain things and if you use a particular type of humor they get offended. With my boys I would use completely unfiltered language and not only was I tolerated, I was accepted for it. I'm not quite politically correct and use all kinds of derogatory terms with my friends. I just like being able to speak freely without being judged.
For guys who are feeling like they are in a rut, having a close group of friends can get you out of it. Sometimes it's even better than having a gf because they are a better support system.
With girls, yeah it's fun if there's sexy time but you can't talk to them about certain things and if you use a particular type of humor they get offended. With my boys I would use completely unfiltered language and not only was I tolerated, I was accepted for it. I'm not quite politically correct and use all kinds of derogatory terms with my friends. I just like being able to speak freely without being judged.
For guys who are feeling like they are in a rut, having a close group of friends can get you out of it. Sometimes it's even better than having a gf because they are a better support system.
Lotus Effect
Master Don Juan
This post is Epic!
And PlayHer Man summed it all up with precise wording
But it is amazing trying to do the same with Betas, and being called a foll. The number of white knights is increasing to a point, that even I, a regular Joe, I'm lightyears ahead of them to an extent I hear girls praising my attitude, while calling the majority of man 'Weak'
And on a sidenote, I'm repping all of you guys! Excelent post!
And PlayHer Man summed it all up with precise wording
I have really given up on trying to do so! I do believe that naturals are naturals, and trying to Game aware them is in fact useless, since they know it by nature.
But it is amazing trying to do the same with Betas, and being called a foll. The number of white knights is increasing to a point, that even I, a regular Joe, I'm lightyears ahead of them to an extent I hear girls praising my attitude, while calling the majority of man 'Weak'
And on a sidenote, I'm repping all of you guys! Excelent post!
WC2
Master Don Juan
Why would you hang around with either?
Sure, I love hanging with women as long as I'm seducing them in some sort of way. Doesn't mean I need take them to bed, but I'm sure as sh!t not gossiping about the latest issue of Usweekly.
Listen, all of us have AFC friends. They can be great buddies when the going gets rough. But if you want to grow as a person, surround yourself with people on your level or above your level.
Sure, I love hanging with women as long as I'm seducing them in some sort of way. Doesn't mean I need take them to bed, but I'm sure as sh!t not gossiping about the latest issue of Usweekly.
Listen, all of us have AFC friends. They can be great buddies when the going gets rough. But if you want to grow as a person, surround yourself with people on your level or above your level.
honestly the more i awaken and take the red pill the more AFC behavior irritates me. sure I am a noob red pill taker but still seeing the AFC behavior all around is just aggravating as ****. I do agree a good group of guys is key for any male but i am getting the feeling if you are too far into the red pill then blue pill men are just not worth the time and effort.
cervantesscthree
Don Juan
You answered yr own question in that reply, we all have AFC friends and if surrounding ourselves with people that were on, or above our lvl, was easy, this forum probably never would have come into existence. This post was made because of the difficulty in doing just that, too many severe beta bucks out there. I wouldn't gossip about that (whatever Usweekly is) with women either, but they're easier to chat with. And when does speaking to women not invlove seduction? It always will on some BASE lvlWC2 said:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.