I went out with this girl last week.. counted as our first date or whatever so i took her to this night club cause I had the urge to go club. We get the club and we are drinking outside and she suddenly recognizes this guy..hes her ex from 2 months ago... so he comes up and tries to talk to her but shes kinda brushing him off.. anyways he ended up following us around the whole ****ing night basically...so later on I take her home we do our thing and she leaves..so Im chatting with her the next week and shes telling me how psycho her exs are.. at first I was like wow thats messed.. then I began to wonder maybe she enjoys all this **** and the drama associated with it.. she did tell me that one of them hated me and said I was a player and wanted to fight ( come one dude why would u fight over her? what an AFC you guys already broke up) etc..she didnt need to tell me that.. so according to my past experience with another AW it just seems she might get some thrill out of egging them on and maybe being so desired.... we had plans to go out again this weekend but I just cancelled.. I think Im doing the right thing..i dont want her to memorize where my house is.. haha what would u guys do?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Girls know what they are doing 100% of the time right?
- Thread starter LaoDa
- Start date
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Yeah some chicks do love drama and they want to drag you into a competition (and possibly a fight) with other guys - it boosts their ego. Don't get into a fight like that, no chick is worth it. Always pay attention to red flags early on, before you get sucked in too deep with a chick.
As for taking a chick to a club for a date, it's asking for trouble and other guys to hit on her. The club is where you go to pick up chicks, not take one you already picked up. It's a hothouse of drunk horny guys looking to hit on chicks - including yours.
As for taking a chick to a club for a date, it's asking for trouble and other guys to hit on her. The club is where you go to pick up chicks, not take one you already picked up. It's a hothouse of drunk horny guys looking to hit on chicks - including yours.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
we make it all up as we go
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
This woman deserves a prize...penkitten said:
Jester FPS
Don Juan
you did the right thing, good job
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.