"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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So, I'm talking redpill stuff/game, to my friend who thinks I'm mean for walking away from a girl (obvious blue piller) I bit concerned because I found out, I was close to being an earshot from her. Didn't use her name or anything. Should be ok.

Anyway, got thinking... Any plate find out your a DJ/redpiller? If so, what was their response or reaction? I would like to keep it under my hat, as it were, but I also would like to help out a friend.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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So, I'm talking redpill stuff/game, to my friend who thinks I'm mean for walking away from a girl (obvious blue piller) I bit concerned because I found out, I was close to being an earshot from her. Didn't use her name or anything. Should be ok.

Anyway, got thinking... Any plate find out your a DJ/redpiller? If so, what was their response or reaction? I would like to keep it under my hat, as it were, but I also would like to help out a friend.
I've had a few find out. It never really effects anything because women are so solipsistic in nature. Pretty much anything goes in one ear and out the other. If she likes you she won't care about way you say.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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^ Both the above responses can be true but I wouldn't advice mentioning it. Women think about men only from their own self-absorbed perspective, they don't think about and won't sympathise with any other way of viewing things. But if she has high IL and you just mention it in a light-hearted way, she might not care because with high IL you get more leeway in general - the odds of her not caring get better the less stupid she is. But I personally have never had any benefits from "sharing" the red pill with women. They only like to "hear" about it when it's done in a visceral/intuitive way, like suddenly grabbing them from behind and choking them while you whisper how you're gonna fvck them and start touching their pvssy, groping their ass in public, not doing weak things, and so on - basically just demonstrate red pill behaviour. It's just an unnecessary risk to "rationally" talk about it when they have no ability to understand let alone appreciate it.
 
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That's the way to handle business.
 

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There really should never be a reason why a woman finds out about one's activities here. It is 100% ill-advised to let them know. This place doesn't exist.
Well, unless you're a giant assh0le like me who throws his fellow men under the bus at every given opportunity.

Try this line:
I post on a how-to-get girls web site to try to help all the dateless wonder guys. Some of them are depressed about women to the point of being suicidal. It upsets me a lot. I try to help when I can.

Yes, I have said that to several women. It always comes off as me being a great guy. None of them ever go look up sosuave. They probably think I am telling guys to "just be nice" so they can get a date.
 

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Well, unless you're a giant assh0le like me who throws his fellow men under the bus at every given opportunity.

Try this line:
I post on a how-to-get girls web site to try to help all the dateless wonder guys. Some of them are depressed about women to the point of being suicidal. It upsets me a lot. I try to help when I can.

Yes, I have said that to several women. It always comes off as me being a great guy. None of them ever go look up sosuave. They probably think I am telling guys to "just be nice" so they can get a date.
Nicely played!

I think that this site, even with all the bad apples, should be a well guarded secret. Also thinking, I should just keep my big mouth shut, from now on!

It's so hard, when you feel like a million dollars!!!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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When you put that "SOSUAVE" effect on women, believe me they will feel it!! I've been called a player many many times or they'll say it's something different about you by good looking women. You just got to get used to it b/c it comes with the territory of being a DJ.

Do/Did women you know ever talk to you about what their all female slumber parties topic of discussions were, female nights out or at their all female book clubs meetings or social gatherings? Every event I just describe was about who they wish they can fvck!!
 
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This is very true. Women love when they can think of a man as just "getting it".

This falls into the realm of staying mysterious, too. As a performing guitarist, if my audiences knew about the countless hours I have spent practicing my craft, they would be less impressed. They desire to think that it just flows out of me like water, and I'm happy to oblige.

I believe that a necessary part of life for a man is creating the aura that he wants others to perceive. This isn't the simplistic "caring about what others think", but rather the art of influence and power. Within that aura a man can dismiss or accept whomever he desires.
 

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If she finds out that you were reading red pill stuff, say yes. That you get newsletters in the email and was just checking it out.

Be casual but don't be a wuss and back down from her.

It's okay for women to read Cosmo, Life, Essence etc that preach "10 sex moves that will keep him wrapped around your finger" but it's bad for a man to read "5 ways to improve your body to be more confident".

In these anti-masculinity days, more men need to start being bolder and less feminine conventional. If she doesn't like it then she can go suck a big fat one.
 

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If she finds out that you were reading red pill stuff, say yes. That you get newsletters in the email and was just checking it out.

Be casual but don't be a wuss and back down from her.

It's okay for women to read Cosmo, Life, Essence etc that preach "10 sex moves that will keep him wrapped around your finger" but it's bad for a man to read "5 ways to improve your body to be more confident".

In these anti-masculinity days, more men need to start being bolder and less feminine conventional. If she doesn't like it then she can go suck a big fat one.
Reminds me of "the rules"

See:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rules
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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