"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Girls as Friends

Lost1

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God all my posts suck nothing for the community I mean, I'm just looking for some kind of advice from past experiences.


I know the whole friends thing is a no no but heres the situation:

I dated this girl for like 3 weeks, totally led me on then cut me down real fast with a friends speach. Basically left me hangin for 2 months. Then I asked her to hang to see if I could do the friends thing. Well I showed up and she looked real good and I didnt feel so swell about bein friends anymore.


Is it worth hanging with her, I think she could be sidling me..



Has anyone ever been in the same boat? How did it work out? Is it a lost cause? I honestly dont want to let this one go.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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anointed

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im a firm believer in converting friends into girlfriends. I know it can be done cos ive done it. But it takes alot of headfvcking aswell... like i cant pinpoint exactly how i did it yet.

The 2 month break should do you good.. and remember she hung out with you and wore a bunch of nice ****. i usually consider that like half an IOI. Dont ever verbalize to her what you just said here though "lets do the friends thing". Ask her to hang out n thats it.. dont try to make excuses for yourself. Your not out to prove yourself to her. Its the other way round.

If i were u and i liked her, id use the 2 month break and start fresh with her. Be different, be C+F, kino act like u dont giv a fvck.. basically.. yea.. start over.. I mean she met you right? Think that SHE WANTS YOU TO BE THE MAN OF HER DREAMS.. but if you come accross as a b!tch shes gona find someone else to be that guy.

Dont verbalize ****. Dont say you like her.. then she cant give you any speach.. just build sexual tension, flirt, setup dates and actions actions.. guage her interest.. push pull.. i think the 2 mnths break gives you a right to have another shot.. she should be more open now.
 

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thanks!, thats some great advice@!:yes:
 

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Coming up next: Dogs as Horses. Followed by Toothpicks as Swords. After the break.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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d9930380

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Do you want to be her friend? If not then give yourself a deadline to be ****ing this girl using anointed's advice. That way you won't get pulled into a situation where you become her little pet as you can't walk away because after all you're only friends and you don't want to admit that 4 months later the only reason you where friends was to have sex so you stay her little pet.

That's the danger!
 
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