"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Girls are opportunists

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They will always go for the better deal and utilize their current options like no big deal. They will take advantage over anything given to them. Lets look at a typical fraternity party for example. The girls came to the party to either drink free alcohol, find some brother they have been wanting to screw, or both. If she doesn't get the guy she wanted than she can easily just call her second best option to come screw her.

The only way to win is to be the best deal lol. My friend can't seem to find a girl that will stick around with him in Atlanta lol. Hmmm I wonder why? The competition in Atlanta must be fierce as hell. I told him the only thing he can do is raise his prestige or become a millionaire.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Like a lot of guys aren't? How many bum ass dudes with no job that sits on their ass while the woman pays for everything are out there? Plenty.
 

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marmel75 said:
Like a lot of guys aren't? How many bum ass dudes with no job that sits on their ass while the woman pays for everything are out there? Plenty.
If woman pays for them it means they give her something much more precious than money.

Pvssy tingles > money

The OP is right about being best option and he didnt mean -only- money, money is beta bucks, you need to offer whole package deal.As everything in life we value things which are not easy to replace.If you are not much different than some other random dude then your position is weak.A woman is like flea that jumps from dog to dog.
 

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JohnyTheArrow said:
A woman is like flea that jumps from dog to dog.
So you are a dog:crackup: an expendable one
 

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JohnyTheArrow said:
If woman pays for them it means they give her something much more precious than money.

Pvssy tingles > money

The OP is right about being best option and he didnt mean -only- money, money is beta bucks, you need to offer whole package deal.As everything in life we value things which are not easy to replace.If you are not much different than some other random dude then your position is weak.A woman is like flea that jumps from dog to dog.
In the case I stated its more like the woman has no self worth and thinks that's the best she can do, or that she isn't worthy of someone better.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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marmel75 said:
In the case I stated its more like the woman has no self worth and thinks that's the best she can do, or that she isn't worthy of someone better.
in 2015 ? If she has any value she has hordes of men backstabbing her man and telling her 'she deserves better ', most women now have plan B C D and E waiting in the wings
 

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cest la vie, become the best option in sufficient amount of situations and dont whine, the opportunism is what I like best about women, couse its so unlike me

on the other hand, there are dudes who leech off females which is low in my eyes, in the end, it gets the better of them psychologically tho, no matter how low they are ready to sink, when a woman other than your mother supports you it fuks you up ;] A man needs to call the shots, or at least feel like it even when carefully manipulated. But money call the shots. If the man is not the one with the dough, the fact that he is useless becomes so obvious he cant ignore it
 

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JohnyTheArrow said:
in 2015 ? If she has any value she has hordes of men backstabbing her man and telling her 'she deserves better ', most women now have plan B C D and E waiting in the wings

Truth. With social media you bet your a$$ she has a backup plan. And a backup plan to backup the backup plan.
 

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JohnyTheArrow said:
in 2015 ? If she has any value she has hordes of men backstabbing her man and telling her 'she deserves better ', most women now have plan B C D and E waiting in the wings
That has nothing to do with self esteem. B,C, D, and E might be as big of losers as A.
 

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They will always go for the better deal and utilize their current options like no big deal. They will take advantage over anything given to them.
Come on bro, it's like you are complaining they have "choices". Who in their right mind wouldn't go for a bigger better deal at the same price?

Are they:

- putting you down?
- wasting your money?
- physically hurting you?

If not, you can't complain about anything. You can't lean on them, you can't expect anything from them, you can't complain to them, you can just ENJOY them at that moment. They are only good for sex and enjoyment and babies, if you make them out to be ANYTHING more, they will DESTROY you.

If you guys get so angry because women make your head spin without touching you, how do you survive in the real world? :trouble:
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Yep.

All women are opportunistic prostitutes that leverage their sex appeal to extract time, attention and resources from as many men as possible. The higher value the men.. the better.

This has always been the case and it will always be the case. Retarded white knights still don't understand this very obvious reality.
 

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Poon King said:
Yep.

All women are opportunistic prostitutes that leverage their sex appeal to extract time, attention and resources from as many men as possible. The higher value the men.. the better.

This has always been the case and it will always be the case. Retarded white knights still don't understand this very obvious reality.
This beta ass loser hates women since they refuse to fvck him. :crackup:

"Poon King" just got banned as yannick43.

Mods should ban Poon King the troll for having several SS accounts.
 

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Poon King said:
Yep.

All women are opportunistic prostitutes that leverage their sex appeal to extract time, attention and resources from as many men as possible. The higher value the men.. the better.

This has always been the case and it will always be the case. Retarded white knights still don't understand this very obvious reality.

Poon Queen is a troll that nobody in the forum take seriously except the mods who protect him so he can preach his red pill MGTOW nonsense they believe.
 

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Suspens said:
So you are a dog:crackup: an expendable one
We all are. Unfortunately the guys aren't 100% right... There are actual loyal women out there who want to do their part and take care of their man.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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P1ss off 'Certs.'
 

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Hypergamy and BRIFFAULT'S LAW will always exist OP, swallow the pill already and accept this. If you are spinning plates, you should be doing the same thing.

Nature of the beast.
 

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Is that you, Potty Ninja?

Dhoulmagus said:
They will always go for the better deal and utilize their current options like no big deal.
True. But in the process of being the best guy, you will enjoy yourself. You like fancy meals and nice hotels too. If you are the best option for one woman, you are the best option for lots of equally beautiful women. Thus, you will have lots of options. If you only have one option you are dead in the water. She will leave you on account of that alone. Every time you take your woman out, she must observe women who she thinks are hot being attracted to you, or she is too good for you. That's why money only gets you so far. The fun of the date is directly proportional to her attraction level. Never hang around women who are not attracted to you! It will drain your soul and you'll become a bitter old man like Bio, actually stalking anonymous men online if not at Interstate Rest Areas.

Dhoulmagus said:
The competition in Atlanta must be fierce as hell.
False. Atlanta has tons of beautiful women and a lot of gay men (I'm told by single women, not Tranny Ninja), which leads to a 4-1 ratio of single women to single (hetero) men. There are lots of great bars too. I even found a meat market for 35-45 range women and am 2/2 there. Atlanta (hosting MNF currently) is better than most cities when it comes to women, except maybe Austin and Dallas. Plus it has trees.
 

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Is that you, Potty Ninja?


True. But in the process of being the best guy, you will enjoy yourself. You like fancy meals and nice hotels too. If you are the best option for one woman, you are the best option for lots of equally beautiful women. Thus, you will have lots of options. If you only have one option you are dead in the water. She will leave you on account of that alone. Every time you take your woman out, she must observe women who she thinks are hot being attracted to you, or she is too good for you. That's why money only gets you so far. The fun of the date is directly proportional to her attraction level. Never hang around women who are not attracted to you! It will drain your soul and you'll become a bitter old man like Bio, actually stalking anonymous men online if not at Interstate Rest Areas.


False. Atlanta has tons of beautiful women and a lot of gay men (I'm told by single women, not Tranny Ninja), which leads to a 4-1 ratio of single women to single (hetero) men. There are lots of great bars too. I even found a meat market for 35-45 range women and am 2/2 there. Atlanta (hosting MNF currently) is better than most cities when it comes to women, except maybe Austin and Dallas. Plus it has trees.
lolz at the trees part.
 
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