Girls are obvious. And everyone knows it.

[Hamurabimbi]

Time after time. Girls are so
Transparent. Guys that think girls are subtle. No. They are over the top
Transparent.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I'll extrapolate. Today. I was at a remote client location. One of the staff, a girl in her late 20's. Was very flirty. After work, as I was staying at a hotel for work, nearby, four of the admin guys invited me out for drinks. One of the guys told me 'I think Angie's (the flirty girl) is going to text me and ask for your number. What do you want me to Do?' Nothing is hidden. Everyone knows everything.

 

[Westminster]

It's true. If they like you, they'll make it obvious. Or at least a lot of them do.

 

[Plinco]

That also depends a lot on the people in question. Some people are more obvious than others.

 

[jhonny9546]

Factors:
1) some people are more obvious showing interest
2) some people are better at reading signs.

Also, as a man, you need to know what women are willing to do without giving them any commitment at all.

 

[viking22]

Generally the less attractive the girl the more obvious she tends to be and the more flirty she tends to be. They are also far more likely to be obvious when a man has a much higher SMV.

Very attractive women do not need to work hard to get attention from men it is their birthright and they expect strong confident men to approach them without requiring green lights or obvious hints. Any IOIs they do give tend to be a lot more subtle and not obvious unless you are adept at reading body language.

Also most women generally are taught not to be obvious or appear desperate. There is also a disconnect because what they think of as emitting a clear IOI is often missed by men who tend to be less observant and less adept at reading body language. I am sure all of us can think back to situations where a woman was into us and at the time we completely missed it.

So basically low hanging fruit tends to be obvious and makes it easy for you. This isn't a cheat code.

 

[THE OX HTX]

I'll extrapolate. Today. I was at a remote client location. One of the staff, a girl in her late 20's. Was very flirty. After work, as I was staying at a hotel for work, nearby, four of the admin guys invited me out for drinks. One of the guys told me 'I think Angie's (the flirty girl) is going to text me and ask for your number. What do you want me to Do?' Nothing is hidden. Everyone knows everything.

Does she work with your company or the clients company? I ask because you have to be careful with ****ing the help.

 

[Mike32ct]

In the office, I often overhear the woman up front giggling at everything the delivery guy is saying when he drops a package off and chats with her. He’s not even joking most of the time lol.

All that aside, women do have secret crushes too. The same woman told me about a guy in the building she likes that she’s never talked to. This dude has no idea.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I'll extrapolate. Today. I was at a remote client location. One of the staff, a girl in her late 20's. Was very flirty. After work, as I was staying at a hotel for work, nearby, four of the admin guys invited me out for drinks. One of the guys told me 'I think Angie's (the flirty girl) is going to text me and ask for your number. What do you want me to Do?' Nothing is hidden. Everyone knows everything.

I'm not sure I would draw far reaching conclusions from a single incident. There could be 20 other Angies at other remote client locations who never made it obvious.

 

[Solomon]

It's true. If they like you, they'll make it obvious. Or at least a lot of them do.

Yup one of the best pieces of advice I got was from a former co-worker when I used to work at a Office Store in College
"The women like you a bit more than you like them will pursue you. or at least make it easy for ya"
That rule has shown itself to be true again and again and again in my life, this is why I always tell guys on here to focus on high-interest women and not MID or Low no matter how hot they are, the less energy you expel the smoother it goes

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I'm not sure I would draw far reaching conclusions from a single incident. There could be 20 other Angies at other remote client locations who never made it obvious.

Fair point.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Does she work with your company or the clients company? I ask because you have to be careful with ****ing the help.

I have a GF.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I'm not sure I would draw far reaching conclusions from a single incident.

Yeah, some girls like guys and are terrified to express it.

Other girls like guys and telegraph it to everybody in the vicinity.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Time after time. Girls are so
Transparent. Guys that think girls are subtle. No. They are over the top
Transparent.

Yep https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1B2DTP4vfz/

 

[THE OX HTX]

Rhymes with drag

 

[intricate design]

I dunno man

women are hard for men to read even if you’re experienced. They’ll put out mixtures of signals and contradictions that it’s just plain confusing

before the internet took over we used to be more cave man like. Being bold. At least with me, I remember some women giving confusing signals and I didn’t know what the hell to think, so I just whipped it out and put it in her hand

Then she was immediately compliant and stopped being a jerk show

 

[Bingo-Player]

So basically low hanging fruit tends to be obvious and makes it easy for you. This isn't a cheat code.

Yea agreed smarter / attractive women generally know that they can't appear too keen or they lose all leverage

Granted you can get situations where you're just very much her type and she will make it easy but in my experiences nearly every woman I've actually wanted can almost immediately sense it and in turn will make me work hard for anything.

The slots , single mothers , recent divorcees and chronically single women are of course a lot easier to deal with but then tend to be a lot lower value

Attraction can be a vicious dynamic

 

[RangerMIke]

I agree with the OP. You can pretty much judge where you stand with a woman if you keep your eyes and ears open and pay attention to what is going on. This gets easier with experience.

Things go sideways when men engage in magical thinking, letting emotions get in the way of objective evaluation. This causes men to ignore bad signals, while placing too much emphasis on behavior that reinforces what they want to believe.

Two things to remember:

(1) Bad news does not get better with time. It is better to let things end as soon as possible than to drag out a situation that will turn into a nightmare. This reminds me of the old story of the Little Dutch Boy with his finger in the dike. I never understood this story... Why is he sacrificing his life holding back the collapse of the dike... he should have walked away. If you are sacrificing your life and getting nothing in return, you are little more than a useful tool. I know dozens of men that bust their asses keeping things going with particular women... getting little or nothing in return.

(2) "You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality." This is Objectivism, acknowledging circumstance is a key to your mental health and can provide an effective guide for individual ethics.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Time after time. Girls are so
Transparent. Guys that think girls are subtle. No. They are over the top
Transparent.

Really seeing what's in front of us, without our perceptions being colored by pre-existing beliefs, is tougher than most folks care to realize. Ex.

Our stiffy for military adventurism wouldn't keep re-arising, half a century after the debacle of South Vietnam, if so many of us didn't tenaciously cling to the belief: "Big Brother needs to swoop down from the heavens, and bless us with safe lives... By "safe" here, I mean: "An existence where nothing I personally find disagreeable never again occurs"