"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Girlfriends and their female friends

The Duke

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Have you ever dated a girl and when ever you and her had problems she would talk to her best female friend and almost make your situation worse?

Usually this so called "friend" of hers is truly no friend at all. This has happened to me twice and the "friend" always acted like because she wasn't happy with her relationships, then nobody else should be either. Its like the bad friend tries to brainwash my girl.

I've always thought a lot of it is fueled by jealousy on the bad friends part.

I swear I'm going to start screening their friends too.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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speed dawg

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This doesn't matter if your girl has high enough interest level in you. Don't blame the friend because you aren't on your game. If she's fickle enough to doubt you based on her friends, then she's not worth your time.

Unless of course, you're just an absolute @sshole with a crappy attitude. But even then if the chick is digging you her friends' opinions means exactly squat.
 

Jonnybangbang

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This is an important subject. I agree with speed dawg. Anyone who relies on someone else (be it a best friend for instance) for advice on boyfriends/girlfriends doesn't know who they are themselves. Although there is nothing wrong with secondary opinions, but only if they become significantly dominant over your own. My friends have been "bang on right" about my previous "psycho" girlfriends buuuut perhaps i was still figuring out who I was at that moment in my life and couldn't figure it out for myself...
 

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Jonnybangbang said:
This is an important subject. I agree with speed dawg. Anyone who relies on someone else (be it a best friend for instance) for advice on boyfriends/girlfriends doesn't know who they are themselves. Although there is nothing wrong with secondary opinions, but only if they become significantly dominant over your own. My friends have been "bang on right" about my previous "psycho" girlfriends buuuut perhaps i was still figuring out who I was at that moment in my life and couldn't figure it out for myself...
Bingo! Give the man a prize!

My last LTR, we actually split for about 2 weeks because of her "best friend's" influence on her. Her so-called friend (who she bad-mouthed later on) convinced her to buy in to that whole "Secret"-type craze. I should have recognized it then and never gotten back together with her, but I'm a sucker for punishment I guess.

Although I believe that this is more than just not knowing who they are.

It is a marker of a girl of such low self-esteem that she needs the acceptance of her "friends" because without that she has no internal compass for how she is doing socially. Typically girls that were raised in very protective households with low socialization among their peer groups.

I may revisit and expand on this post later.
 

zekko

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Jonnybangbang said:
Anyone who relies on someone else (be it a best friend for instance) for advice on boyfriends/girlfriends doesn't know who they are themselves. ...
Like a message board, for instance?
I have to agree.

:yes:
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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backbreaker

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if my wife listend to any of her friend she would have dumped me after like 2 weeks lol. they just knew i was "a player who was no good" plus i drive a nice car and no one knew what i did for a living and one of her friends swore i sold drugs lol.

needless to say my wife is the only one of her friends who is married.
 

FLGuy

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Howiestern said:
Have you ever dated a girl and when ever you and her had problems she would talk to her best female friend and almost make your situation worse?

Usually this so called "friend" of hers is truly no friend at all. This has happened to me twice and the "friend" always acted like because she wasn't happy with her relationships, then nobody else should be either. Its like the bad friend tries to brainwash my girl.

I've always thought a lot of it is fueled by jealousy on the bad friends part.

I swear I'm going to start screening their friends too.
my opinion is that you should be the one brainwashing ur girl, not her friends. You should have more pull over her than her "sista's".
 
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