Girl won't swallow/spit but open to creampie

[FlexpertHamilton]

I've been with a few women that didn't want to swallow, and in one case I egged her on to try it, and she just ended up choked and coughing...definitely unusual, but it happens. Btw, it doesn't mean she's not a hoe, it might just mean she's too lazy to have ever learned how, or maybe she genuinely can't surpress her gag reflex. It's a shame because my loads are fvcking massive and it's so hot to see them swallow it all, but it's by no means a dealbreaker.

 

[Clockwerk50]

I've been with a few women that didn't want to swallow, and in one case I egged her on to try it, and she just ended up choked and coughing...definitely unusual, but it happens. Btw, it doesn't mean she's not a hoe, it might just mean she's too lazy to have ever learned how, or maybe she genuinely can't surpress her gag reflex. It's a shame because my loads are fvcking massive and it's so hot to see them swallow it all, but it's by no means a dealbreaker.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I thought you were gonna brag with naked pictures that she sent you or video of you fvcking her hahahaha you're hilarious. It this really the kind of guy giving advice in a seduction forum?

I remember in high school (2007) we bragged with pictures or videos between the guys, now its with her phone number? Wow the standard has really gone to $hit..


Press X for doubt


Definitely agree on this one


Yeah that $hit was crazy, never crash your esterogen. If you need more info how to use them healthy and effectively. PM me bro, I'm always open to help. OP, didn't mean to derail the topic, good luck.

That’s a good point - if you have some pics of someone you’re nailing recently you’re free to share. I have one ready to go with a timestamp on the front of it. It’s four weeks old, I can get one tonight or tomorrow though live action. You wanna put up or shut up? I will let it slide that your post is heavily edited way after you wrote it

 

[jamesfromhouston]

Thanks for everyone's response.

In my own experience, I can't even remember ever seeing a girl who was not open to letting me finish on her face or in her mouth (whether spit or swallow). It's just a natural thing to do when she is already giving you a BJ. Most girls who are into me in the past, have done everything to please me, but then there is this "mixed sexual signals girl".

She hasn't outright said she won't do it. She always says: "let's do it next time", "next time". I bought it for awhile but it's now been months, so I am just starting to question the behavior. It just sits weirdly because she loves to make me *** and wants me to do it inside her, or just stroke it out of me but it just cannot go anywhere near her face. What's even funnier is I thought maybe she had something against tasting *** but she always sucks me clean after making a mess inside her.

Reading everyone's views, I think my conflict boils down to what @New_Journey & @Divorced w 3 have laid out:

1) My RP side is telling me that this behavior probably means she does not have as much interest for me as I thought. A girl who is truly interested will do anything to please you in bed. But I wonder if this too much of a hardline concept from the RP community.

2) Then there's another side telling me that MAYBE she really has something against it. And for some girls, it could be a boundary that they won't comfortably cross for anyone, just like @BPH said. But I wonder if this is just BP thinking.

I am now stuck being wondering if I should just be patient and see if that "next time" comes or if I should just either talk to her about it or detach and show that it is something I can't accept.

As for @The Duke you're somewhat right, she has been giving me a lot of LTR talk vibes recently/indirectly but nothing substantial. Despite being a plate, I treat her well. We have a mix of fun non-sexual moments. As for giving her the big O. She always Os with me in bed. She enjoys herself.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Thanks for everyone's response.

In my own experience, I can't even remember ever seeing a girl who was not open to letting me finish on her face or in her mouth (whether spit or swallow). It's just a natural thing to do when she is already giving you a BJ. Most girls who are into me in the past, have done everything to please me, but then there is this "mixed sexual signals girl".

She hasn't outright said she won't do it. She always says: "let's do it next time", "next time". I bought it for awhile but it's now been months, so I am just starting to question the behavior. It just sits weirdly because she loves to make me *** and wants me to do it inside her, or just stroke it out of me but it just cannot go anywhere near her face. What's even funnier is I thought maybe she had something against tasting *** but she always sucks me clean after making a mess inside her.

Reading everyone's views, I think my conflict boils down to what @New_Journey & @Divorced w 3 have laid out:

1) My RP side is telling me that this behavior probably means she does not have as much interest for me as I thought. A girl who is truly interested will do anything to please you in bed. But I wonder if this too much of a hardline concept from the RP community.

2) Then there's another side telling me that MAYBE she really has something against it. And for some girls, it could be a boundary that they won't comfortably cross for anyone, just like @BPH said. But I wonder if this is just BP thinking.

I am now stuck being wondering if I should just be patient and see if that "next time" comes or if I should just either talk to her about it or detach and show that it is something I can't accept.

As for @The Duke you're somewhat right, she has been giving me a lot of LTR talk vibes recently/indirectly but nothing substantial. Despite being a plate, I treat her well. We have a mix of fun non-sexual moments. As for giving her the big O. She always Os with me in bed. She enjoys herself.

Just don’t tell her you’re about to bust and then finish / the thing I do agree is you always do what you want. Much more often than not if you’re into it she’s going to be into it. If she pulls back you try it like 5-20 more times here and there and see if she really means it. She will probably end up letting you bust in her mouth and then she will spit it out.

Where you went wrong is telling her you were going to bust the first time. Just do what you want.

You can expand your horizons with her without giving her girlfriend status.

Always ignore that red pill incel on your shoulder also.

 

[SW15]

1) My RP side is telling me that this behavior probably means she does not have as much interest for me as I thought. A girl who is truly interested will do anything to please you in bed. But I wonder if this too much of a hardline concept from the RP community.

2) Then there's another side telling me that MAYBE she really has something against it. And for some girls, it could be a boundary that they won't comfortably cross for anyone, just like @BPH said. But I wonder if this is just BP thinking.

I am now stuck being wondering if I should just be patient and see if that "next time" comes or if I should just either talk to her about it or detach and show that it is something I can't accept.

Either way, this is a significant sexual incompatibility that is not likely to get resolved.

Fortunately, you have abundance. You are good enough at seduction (mainly from night game) to find another woman in a short amount of time.

This is a plate and not an LTR. You haven't committed to her and she hasn't been a part of your life for long. As a plate, she was likely to break anyway within a few months.

In the future, you need to have a stronger Early Frame Announcement with what's sexually important to you. Ideally, you do this prior to sex.

 

[Lotus Effect]

I don't want to be the a hole in this conversation, but this thread has become the most ridiculous thread ever.

What is this, a c0ck competition?

@New_Journey

Were you not the guy who was all heartbroken just the other day? Take a chill pill bruv!
You don't have to come across as the ultimate badazz over the internet to a bunch of random dudes.

And please stop giving terrible advice. You just got here. Go do some reading.
You're too uptight, and too damn red pilled. Chillax

@jamesfromhouston

It's okay bro, some chicks dig it, some chicks don't.

It is pretty straightforward.

Some will rather ride, some will rather doggie. Some will do an4l, some won't.

Some will wan't creampie, and some will demonish it.

For instance, I dated a chick for 5 years, five, she had a IUD, and she would go for the load anywhere but inside.
Then I dated a chick for 6 months, she had nothing, and she would let me load whenever I want, mouth, azz, puzzy. face... you name it
The one I'm doing right now is obssesed with swallowing it. She won't let me do anywhere but her throat.

It all depends, just go with the flow, and don't think too much of it. It doesn't matter.

As long as you're not cvmming in a tissue, you're already one step ahead.

And pro tip; enjoy while it lasts.

Cheers

 

[SW15]

I dated a chick for 5 years, five, she had a IUD, and she would go for the load anywhere but inside.

If she has an IUD, one would think she would want ejaculations inside her vagina.

And pro tip; enjoy while it lasts.

This is good. I don't think @jamesfromhouston should necessarily walk away over this sexual incompatibility. He said she's wild in bed overall. She's just a plate and it would naturally break anyway within a few months. A lot of women do push for commitment after some time.

I think he's getting to ejaculate in the better hole anyway.

There is something satisfying about receiving oral and the woman swallowing. I don't think that's as good as ejaculating in the vagina.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Either way, this is a significant sexual incompatibility that is not likely to get resolved.

Fortunately, you have abundance. You are good enough at seduction (mainly from night game) to find another woman in a short amount of time.

This is a plate and not an LTR. You haven't committed to her and she hasn't been a part of your life for long. As a plate, she was likely to break anyway within a few months.

In the future, you need to have a stronger Early Frame Announcement with what's sexually important to you. Ideally, you do this prior to sex.

No. Bad advice. It’s not significant sexual incompatibility. It’s significant overthinking on his end. Bust in her mouth next time she is down on him. Don’t tell her it’s about to happen. What is she going to do, walk out? Of course not. Is she going to stop blowing him? Maybe but probably not. It is so ridiculous to throw a woman out of your life because she doesn’t take it in the mouth. It’s his fault not hers. If she stops blowing him he should report back. I will bet you a dollar she just starts spitting into a napkin. And the red pill early frame announcement , I can’t even picture that where you tell a girl before you hook up oh by the way boundary for me is that you have to take my load in your mouth. I have said some brazen stuff over the years , actually I don’t know I could actually probably pull that off but it’s all in the delivery

 

[Lotus Effect]

If she has an IUD, one would think she would want ejaculations inside her vagina.

Tell me about it... I was there for five years hahaha

I think he's getting to ejaculate in the better hole anyway.

There is something satisfying about receiving oral and the woman swallowing. I don't think that's as good as ejaculating in the vagina.

Agreed!

 

[Divorced w 3]

You don't know anything about me.


There fixed it for you.


I noticed in every post, you say this. This tells me that you have a history of women ending $hit with you. In your mind, you already know is gonna end, because that's familiar to you, because it happens every time with you, you know for a fact it will end and you say it repeat so you can finally accept it. Men who are winners don't think that. Do a self assessment on why that is, fix yourself before trying to fix other people. Always happy to help.

You gotta understand it’s going to raise more than a few eyebrows of the quality of your advice that you are here on your third or fourth handle in like 18 months Do you really want to be the next @Sega Genesis. You can’t say that you’re alpha and opinions don’t matter and then be trying multiple to recreate your image on an anonymous message board. Do I strike you as giving g half a fvck what anyone thinks around here, at least sega is a chick and can blame it on daddy issues, emotional instability, being a catfish, whatever her excuse is but you my man, you need to be what you are telling others to be

 

[Lotus Effect]

You don't know anything about me.

Don't know, and don't care.

Let me help you out brother:

You are not the ultimate badazz
You are not the center of the universe
The world does not give two flying fvcks about you nor your opinion

I'll say it over, stop giving terrible advice. Go read.

As I told you, you just got here. Learn to respect your better.

And take a seat in the backseat junior!

 

[Divorced w 3]

Don't know, and don't care.

Let me help you out brother:

You are not the ultimate badazz
You are not the center of the universe
The world does not give two flying fvcks about you nor your opinion

I'll say it over, stop giving terrible advice. Go read.

As I told you, you just got here. Learn to respect your better.

And take a seat in the backseat junior!

The quality of your advice isn’t the hottest either.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Don't know who that guy is and frankly don't care. I give advice based on what I've seen throughout my dating life and what has worked for me. I don't even know why you're arguing with me when our advice is the same, do it without asking her.


That's good, people should be able to challenge everyone's advice, try the one that they want and then report back.



hahaha

Because you speak dismissively and authoritatively and nobody who is on their third or so handle in 1.5 years has any right to do that. You also are dishing out legitimately bad advice telling him to toss her and that communication is irrelevant. If you don’t like my feedback ignore me. I’m not going to haunt you with a new account I promise.

 

[Divorced w 3]

He made a thread asking for advice on cvmming on her mouth, therefore its bothering him otherwise he wouldn't have made it in the first place, my advice is simple, if that's something he wants to do and she doesn't want it, he should toss her away and find another woman who wants to do it.


It is irrelevant. He communicated his needs many times, are you even paying attention to the topic or are you just typing whatever nonsense you think will sound cool?


What more communication you want from him to her? You want him to get on his knees and "communicate"? You're totally clueless man.

You don’t ever stop communicating and you don’t throw chicks out for lack of your own bedroom presence. This is the real world not your favorite red pill YouTube blogger that’s married and doesn’t take his own recommendations. Besides if she is a plate why does it even matter isn’t there another one? Oops. Go call @Rollo Tomassi and let me know how to handle that

 

[SW15]

It’s not significant sexual incompatibility. It’s significant overthinking on his end.

There's a chance that it is overthinking. Regardless of what it is, it is doubtful this arrangement continues much longer because she's a plate and he's not going to upgrade her to monogamous girlfriend status. That would happen regardless of where his loads go when he orgasms via oral sex.

the red pill early frame announcement , I can’t even picture that where you tell a girl before you hook up oh by the way boundary for me is that you have to take my load in your mouth. I have said some brazen stuff over the years , actually I don’t know I could actually probably pull that off but it’s all in the delivery

Yes, it is all in the delivery. In general, I don't think men do well about talking about sex prior to having sex. That can make an impact on the quality of sex.

 

[Divorced w 3]

There's a chance that it is overthinking. Regardless of what it is, it is doubtful this arrangement continues much longer because she's a plate and he's not going to upgrade her to monogamous girlfriend status. That would happen regardless of where his loads go when he orgasms via oral sex.



Yes, it is all in the delivery. In general, I don't think men do well about talking about sex prior to having sex. That can make an impact on the quality of sex.

You should not ever talk about sex before having it. Sex happens for her in the mind and when it is spoken out loud it better be after not before. You anchor her into your frame by banging her right the first time and a massive part of that is not speaking it and blowing the surprise.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Women respond to consequences, the communication you say is for females not for men. Men state what they want once, if she doesn't comply, he finds someone who will.


You still don't get it.

She is NOT the plate, he is. If he had 2 other women slurping his cvm like a baja blast, do you think he will waste time with this one who makes all these BS excuses like "let's do it next time", "next time" He is more into her that she into him, therefore the only way to get what he want with this chick is being more dominant, going for what he wants, and if she doesn't comply, next.

You say don't throw her away cause she's having sex, any women can give you sex, only men with no abundance mentality will think like that. If you're not getting what you want, you don't spend time communicating. Acta non verba.

Let's agree to disagree on this one.

I’m not tapping out on this just because you are. Your advice doesn’t even follow its own progression. Focus on him, not her, for starters. He calls her a plate then by definition bang her like the ho she is. Do not nit pick she is for recreational use only. Absolutely retarded to say ok well someone who doesn’t mean anything to me anyway I’m just going to stop hooking up. Do you hear yourself out loud? You want to have casual sex and then you stop having it because of a partner’s preference? If he has no other options now he’s getting no action at all? Your account should be revoked you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Why? Have you tried it? Have you rocked the boat while being in a date? Have you asked her, how good you fvck? Cause I'm only interested in women who fvck good.

Men who don't care what women say seriously get everything from women. You think she will be offended, she might not like it, but who gives a fvck when getting women is easy?
When a guy has true abundance, women pick on that $hit really quick and you'll be surprised of how they act.

You dope. Being dirty and provocative is one thing. Talking about your sexual preferences like a post mortem is a major turn off.

 

[Divorced w 3]

The thread is him wanting to cvm in her mouth, not sex. You are projecting your desires, and your wants, not what he wants, that's how I know you're clueless. I'm tapping out, you win.

Good move. You told the guy to toss her bc she won’t let him bust in her mouth, you should take a couple days off