"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Girl with a medical condition.

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Would you marry/date a woman who has chronic pain? Overall she's a great girl, body, face, mentality, subservient, intelligent, educated, reads A LOT, can design websites, but her only flaw is that her condition keeps her from being able to sit through a whole movie, getting up to leave 2 or 3 times an hour.

Would you let that bother you, if the sex was good?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Chronic pain is not normal. It's not an illness on itself (or condition), it's a warning indicator. That raises red flags for me.
 
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I once dated a girl who had juvenile rheumatoid arthritis...I was 18 and she was 19. Her joints always hurt and she was deteroriating physically (used to be quite active, snowboarding, etc) but otherwise was no problem. The sex was great, and she has access to medicinal marijuana prescriptions so I was always baked out of my mind!
 
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Nygard said:
Chronic pain is not normal. It's not an illness on itself (or condition), it's a warning indicator. That raises red flags for me.
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It could be alot of things. Hell, even stress can do that to a person.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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It could be alot of things. Hell, even stress can do that to a person
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There, you just wrote it yourself. Pain is sometimes indicates an unhealthy amount of stress.

It's not about the "things", it's about the reason why she's not trying to relieve it.(or maybe how she is trying, I don't know enough)
 
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NO! for the simple fact that most women only get worse when you marry them. Sure she is nice now but just wait till you live with her. It's a world of difference to only see them once or twice a week with their medical condition than to live everyday with them and their problem.
 
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f283000 said:
NO! for the simple fact that most women only get worse when you marry them. Sure she is nice now but just wait till you live with her. It's a world of difference to only see them once or twice a week with their medical condition than to live everyday with them and their problem.
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Sad but true!

Cronic diseases and medical conditions only get worse with age. If you can avoid it from the start, then DO so!
 
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Her condition is worse than I had first imagined. Intercourse hurts. Next.
 
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