"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Girl with a medical condition.

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Would you marry/date a woman who has chronic pain? Overall she's a great girl, body, face, mentality, subservient, intelligent, educated, reads A LOT, can design websites, but her only flaw is that her condition keeps her from being able to sit through a whole movie, getting up to leave 2 or 3 times an hour.

Would you let that bother you, if the sex was good?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Chronic pain is not normal. It's not an illness on itself (or condition), it's a warning indicator. That raises red flags for me.
 

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I once dated a girl who had juvenile rheumatoid arthritis...I was 18 and she was 19. Her joints always hurt and she was deteroriating physically (used to be quite active, snowboarding, etc) but otherwise was no problem. The sex was great, and she has access to medicinal marijuana prescriptions so I was always baked out of my mind!
 

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Nygard said:
Chronic pain is not normal. It's not an illness on itself (or condition), it's a warning indicator. That raises red flags for me.
It could be alot of things. Hell, even stress can do that to a person.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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It could be alot of things. Hell, even stress can do that to a person
There, you just wrote it yourself. Pain is sometimes indicates an unhealthy amount of stress.

It's not about the "things", it's about the reason why she's not trying to relieve it.(or maybe how she is trying, I don't know enough)
 

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NO! for the simple fact that most women only get worse when you marry them. Sure she is nice now but just wait till you live with her. It's a world of difference to only see them once or twice a week with their medical condition than to live everyday with them and their problem.
 

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f283000 said:
NO! for the simple fact that most women only get worse when you marry them. Sure she is nice now but just wait till you live with her. It's a world of difference to only see them once or twice a week with their medical condition than to live everyday with them and their problem.

Sad but true!

Cronic diseases and medical conditions only get worse with age. If you can avoid it from the start, then DO so!
 

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Her condition is worse than I had first imagined. Intercourse hurts. Next.
 
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