"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Hi!

I just renewed my gym card, and was served by a hot chick. She introduced me to the routines and I flirted w/ her a bit. (She doesn't work the times I'm going there, but I will talk to her about administrative stuff in a week. Should I proceed, and if so, how?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I guess you missed the other 200 threads by guys trying to bang the flirty front desk girls at their gyms.

Their job is to be flirty and welcoming. It's what they do. If they were ugly, mean and quiet, they wouldn't have gotten hired.
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
I guess you missed the other 200 threads by guys trying to bang the flirty front desk girls at their gyms.

Their job is to be flirty and welcoming. It's what they do. If they were ugly, mean and quiet, they wouldn't have gotten hired.
^Amen^

That's all I was thinking when I saw the title....
 

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EvilAgenda said:
Unless you want an administrative job there, why the heck would you bring that up?
I think he means that he has to talk to her about payments, billing and/or other "administrative" things.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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good thinking guys hehe... next... :p and yes, billing stuff...
 

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EvilAgenda said:
Oh, I see, Mantis. Thanks.

If you like her, sbgm, and you see an opportunity, of course you go for it. You will learn something regardless of what happens during your interaction.

Don Juan doesn't turn his power on and off, it's always present. So you always go for it.
Ah, b*ow me.

I'll ask your permission next time I offer an opinion. So you won't get mad.
 

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You'll have a lot of competition. I work at a health club and it's just full of beautiful people. Also being on front desk she's probably like that with nearly everyone, unless you can form a more genuine bond or attraction then you're just one of many guys. There'll be a fair few people she'll be particularly chatty with and that's mostly dependent on them, a lot of people just use the facilities and don't bother getting to know the staff, so just make conversation and do your thing and go from there. It's also good to become friendly with the staff anyway, you'll get better deals on things, get priorities for things like popular classes, a couple of unofficial freebies. I'm personally partial to slipping a free protein shake or coffee to my favourites. (And no not the merely the hot ones, just the members that are always friendly and chat to me)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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So, now this gym chick calls me up, being nice and saying that I have to fill out some extra paperwork. This could mean that she are interested in me, but also most likely it's just that I need to fill out some extra paperwork. I'm thinking about giving this a shot. What is the best way to ask her out? Should I even do that?

peace guys
 

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sbgm said:
So, now this gym chick calls me up, being nice and saying that I have to fill out some extra paperwork. This could mean that she are interested in me, but also most likely it's just that I need to fill out some extra paperwork. I'm thinking about giving this a shot. What is the best way to ask her out? Should I even do that?

peace guys
You're losing already... Stop thinking too much. Chances are you're over-analyzing everything and she genuinely needs you to fill out some extra paper work. Worst thing you can do is play yourself.

From my understanding, she is an employee at the gym. I know you'd hate to hear this, but boss, she's nice to everyone. I'm pretty confident you aren't the only person she's called that day; there are other gym members beside you.

That said, provided you still want to pursue, you have to treat her like every other female. Get her number as quick as possible, and, contingent on her response, her interest in you will finally be determined. She gives it to you, you'd be able to count it off as more than just a professional attitude. She denies your request, then you now know the smiles, the politeness, the calls--- all strictly business.

But please man, do not play yourself. I get the feeling she is genuinely doing her job, and you don't want to have your membership revoke, or worst, by playing up on something that isn't real.
 
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