"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'll make this brief.

3 dates all went well sealed the deal.

After 3rd date goes cold, like ice.

I get tired of it pretty fast and block her on Facebook instagram and snapchat

Have had 3 texts the last two days saying she "doesn't understand" and "thought we were going well"

This is after a flake with no reschedule, a "maybe" to offer of a date after flake, and radio silence for over a week after constant texting.

I'm not in the market for games but was I too harsh here?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'll make this brief.

3 dates all went well sealed the deal.

After 3rd date goes cold, like ice.

I get tired of it pretty fast and block her on Facebook instagram and snapchat

Have had 3 texts the last two days saying she "doesn't understand" and "thought we were going well"

This is after a flake with no reschedule, a "maybe" to offer of a date after flake, and radio silence for over a week after constant texting.

I'm not in the market for games but was I too harsh here?
No. You said your not in the market for games.
 

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I thought you handled that well OP....she's probably used to guys chasing her so you stood out by not playing to her games. Bruised her ego slightly. I would continue to ignore her unless she ask's you to meet up. If you do want to meet her again then continue off like nothing's happened. Don't confront or react to her.
 

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reach out one more time, invite her over to cook a meal together, she can make the salad.
if she flakes, delete.
 

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reach out one more time, invite her over to cook a meal together, she can make the salad.
if she flakes, delete.
Yep, make a date where she has to put some effort into it. She has to come to you.

She's just confused... she's just not used to dating real men... not her fault the world is filled with weak @ss b!tch-men. This happens to me now and then, especially with younger women.... keep your frame and you will do fine... if she doesn't come to you, then you don't want her anyway because she is going to be too much work.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I'll make this brief.

3 dates all went well sealed the deal.

After 3rd date goes cold, like ice.

I get tired of it pretty fast and block her on Facebook instagram and snapchat

Have had 3 texts the last two days saying she "doesn't understand" and "thought we were going well"

This is after a flake with no reschedule, a "maybe" to offer of a date after flake, and radio silence for over a week after constant texting.

I'm not in the market for games but was I too harsh here?
Not at all. You set your boundaries and you are sticking to them. If she wants to play games she can play them with someone who is willing too play. More guys need to do what you did. If all guys treated girls like this it would force girls to stop playing games.
 

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reach out one more time, invite her over to cook a meal together, she can make the salad.
if she flakes, delete.
No. Why give her even more validation. If she wants to go out again, she can ask him out. In the meantime, he should date other women.
 

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going through something similar. Thing were great, we went on 2 dates (no sex), had great times. She seemed really into it...then the flaking began, then she reached out, then flaked again. I walked and didn't look back, its been 3 weeks since i heard from her. She liked one of my pics on FB last week but who gives a sht...probably just poking to see if il chase, which i will not.

Bottom line like somebody already said, if she's that interested she will reach out to you. thats the way i feel about my situation. She can not look back on our time together and think of nothing but good times and positive emotions. With that said, if she comes back fine....if not, it is what it is. And the girl im taking about is a 9/10...but i don't care how pretty a girl is....Im not dealing with it.

I probably wouldn't have done all that deleting....i would have just walked...but same difference i suppose
 

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I'd let her know you enjoyed spending time with her, you gave her the opportunity to continue spending time with you and she made the decision not to, so you simply gave the opportunity to someone who appreciated it more.

Then don't text her anything else until she asks you out. She might flake, she might be slapped back to reality enough so that she cuts the bullsh!t out...either way, who cares, keep seeing other chicks and if something else happens with her then it happens, if not, you clearly stated your expectations if she wants to have anything to do with you and she knows you aren't about this fvckery she is about.
 

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Awesome job, OP. Handled like a boss.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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NOPE. Not too harsh.

I have always followed the policy that once a woman plays any type of "game" with me.. she becomes fair game.
Playing games is always a power move on the woman's part. She is trying to dominate and manipulate the man's emotions. This shows a general lack of concern for the man's feelings AND a need to be in control. Why then should you care about the feelings of a woman who doesn't care about yours? On top of that.. women who "need to be in control" are only good for sex. Only submissive women deserve LTR's.

Only put emotional energy into women who behave in a manner you approve of. Otherwise you recognize it as a "bad match" and reduce her to sex toy or move on completely.
 

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I'll make this brief.

3 dates all went well sealed the deal.

After 3rd date goes cold, like ice.

I get tired of it pretty fast and block her on Facebook instagram and snapchat
Bro why did you block her? You just told her 'I'm emotionally fragile. I can't handle you playing games with my feelings.'

Have had 3 texts the last two days saying she "doesn't understand" and "thought we were going well"

This is after a flake with no reschedule, a "maybe" to offer of a date after flake, and radio silence for over a week after constant texting.

I'm not in the market for games but was I too harsh here?
Bro what the hell does 'I'm not in the market for games' mean? EVERYONE plays games if it can make them money or make them look good. Whether it's your wife, LTR, boss, best friend, mistress, government, judge, coworker, or priest.

If she plays games, you play them back. If she comes back, your asking price goes the roof. If you can't 'handle' some games from young girl people in the business world will destroy you and make you cry.
 

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It can show weakness and let them know that they got to you. On the other hand, blocking/deleting says "Fvck YOU!!" in a voice as loud as thunder. I'm a fan, myself.
 

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Bro why did you block her? You just told her 'I'm emotionally fragile. I can't handle you playing games with my feelings.'
if you no longer want anything to do with her, like OP shouldn't, then who cares what she thinks?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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if you no longer want anything to do with her, like OP shouldn't, then who cares what she thinks?
Blocking a girl online is not about what she thinks, it's about you how you handle your life and future relationships. Unless the girl is harassing you online so badly that you can't focus, what's the point of blocking? What if she comes back and says "I'm sorry I didn't call you back, I have my own issues. I'd like to make it up to you in anyway whatsoever." But he doesn't get the message because his emotions got hurt before and he blocked her.

Leaving avenues of communication open is not the same as supplicating. To "block" someone because they are not responding to the way you like shows beta behaviour and hurt feelings. The OP couldn't handle a girl not responding after 3 dates so he emotionally reacted. What is he going to do if he is LTR and the girl stops responding? He will go crazy.
 

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Blocking a girl online is not about what she thinks, it's about you how you handle your life and future relationships. Unless the girl is harassing you online so badly that you can't focus, what's the point of blocking? What if she comes back and says "I'm sorry I didn't call you back, I have my own issues. I'd like to make it up to you in anyway whatsoever." But he doesn't get the message because his emotions got hurt before and he blocked her.
what if he doesn't do second chances because he doesn't feel that a woman who needs to be taught the hard way is worth his time? sometimes we get too caught up in "how do we get/keep her" that we forget the equally important "why do you want her?"

idk about you, but i'm not hearing about any super amazing wife material in this thread

Leaving avenues of communication open is not the same as supplicating. To "block" someone because they are not responding to the way you like shows beta behaviour and hurt feelings. The OP couldn't handle a girl not responding after 3 dates so he emotionally reacted. What is he going to do if he is LTR and the girl stops responding? He will go crazy.
um... take the hint and consider himself single? that's what a normal person would do. assuming you meant didn't respond for like, over a week
 

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what if he doesn't do second chances because he doesn't feel that a woman who needs to be taught the hard way is worth his time? sometimes we get too caught up in "how do we get/keep her" that we forget the equally important "why do you want her?"
You are confusing the issues. It's not about teaching women. It's about leaving the lines of communication OPEN. Guys who block women or erase numbers from women who haven't harassed them have an ego issue ("How dare she not respond, doesn't she know who I am.").

idk about you, but i'm not hearing about any super amazing wife material in this thread
Not the issue.

um... take the hint and consider himself single? that's what a normal person would do. assuming you meant didn't respond for like, over a week
That's the ideal way.

In this case OP emotionally reacted because a girl he had sex with once wouldn't respond to him. Imagine how the OP would act if he had sex with a girl 15 times and then she goes ghost. He would do something drastic.

The main point is keep your emotions in check. When the OP deleted her, he got frustrated emotionally. That is very dangerous for a guy.
 

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I mean blocking was unnecessary. I would have just unfollowed on Instagram and/or unfriended on facebook if I had either of the two. Who gives a **** about snapchat though? She's literally just a tap away from not having to deal with her.

Here's the thing about going NC, you do that to people who are TOXIC to your life and detrimental towards your wellbeing, not to those who flaked on you once or twice or whatever. You never know when they might be useful to you in the future. Hell, you might be able to rekindle something with them and become fvckbuddies or FWB ya know?

Anyway, other than that you did great. I just wouldn't reach out to her again. But I wouldn't block her on every platform I have.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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