"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Girl wants to show me how she likes to be kissed lol

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Would like to think I’m a pretty good kisser but obviously she has her own way she likes it. First time we made out she said something about wanting to pull back for a second to make there more tension. Says next time though she wants to show me how she likes to be kissed. Makes me think of the whole frame thing on here. How do you keep things in your frame in this situation?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Your brain is way too deep in the manosphere koolaid if you are fearful that her wanting to develop kissing with you is an attack on your "frame". Saying that, if she knew that this is really your frame, she probably would become more hesitant. Relax and enjoy kissing with her.

Ironically just like the radical feminists they claim to despise so much, the guys behind this kind of thinking have the same cynical view of relationships where every word and deed is in bad faith and a treacherous power play.
 
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Would like to think I’m a pretty good kisser but obviously she has her own way she likes it. First time we made out she said something about wanting to pull back for a second to make there more tension. Says next time though she wants to show me how she likes to be kissed. Makes me think of the whole frame thing on here. How do you keep things in your frame in this situation?
shes right but youre right too

whenever i pulled back and trolled women with kissing they wanted it more
 

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Your brain is way too deep in the manosphere koolaid if you are fearful that her wanting to develop kissing with you is an attack on your "frame". Saying that, if she knew that this is really your frame, she probably would become more hesitant. Relax and enjoy kissing with her.

Ironically just like the radical feminists they claim to despise so much, the guys behind this kind of thinking have the same cynical view of relationships where every word and deed is in bad faith and a treacherous power play.
Honestly not that I really care about frame, but more that I just don’t want to screw up with this chick lol I’m fine learning her style. Just seems like being the dominate one in this is more important than ever because this is that Russian born chick that is very submissive. So don’t want to be submissive to her if it’s going to make her lose attraction.
 

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Honestly not that I really care about frame, but more that I just don’t want to screw up with this chick lol I’m fine learning her style. Just seems like being the dominate one in this is more important than ever because this is that Russian born chick that is very submissive. So don’t want to be submissive to her if it’s going to make her lose attraction.
It's not submissive and won't make her lose attraction.

What would make her lose attraction if she knew about it (which you deep down know too, or else you would have talked about it with her rather than this forum), and is submissive to the internet keyboard alphas who come up with this stuff and you've gotten it from, is to be secretly fearful that building up kissing with her isn't going to make you look "dominant" enough. Honestly, I am laughing and scoffing as I am writing this at how ridiculous things can become when you drink too much manosphere koolaid. It's not as hard or dangerous to interact with girls as you are making it.

If you were actually selfconfident because you had a solid selfesteem, creating this problem out of nowhere and worrying about it as you've written about here wouldn't even occur to you. It'd be like taken out of a different reality. That should be your real takeaway from this thread.
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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It's not submissive and won't make her lose attraction.

What would make her lose attraction if she knew about it (which you deep down know too, or else you would have talked about it with her rather than this forum), and is submissive to the internet keyboard alphas who come up with this stuff and you've gotten it from, is to be secretly fearful that building up kissing with her isn't going to make you look "dominant" enough. Honestly, I am laughing and scoffing as I am writing this at how ridiculous things can become when you drink too much manosphere koolaid. It's not as hard or dangerous to interact with girls as you are making it.

If you were actually selfconfident because you had a solid selfesteem, creating this problem out of nowhere and worrying about it as you've written about here wouldn't even occur to you. It'd be like taken out of a different reality. That should be your real takeaway from this thread.
Have pretty good self esteem, I’m tall, fit (she texted me after our first date straight up saying how much she liked that I’m tall and handsome and great personality), have my own business making damn good money. Reason for the thread is just that I am definitely starting to get oneitis for her, have never been with a girl like this at all. HB9 that’s extremely cool and down to earth. Might be a BPD with how much affection she shows, seems like love bombing but I think a lot of it is just being born in Russia and raised that way because my buddy dated a chick that was raised in Russia too that was just like that. Been with a legit BPD before so hoping it’s not that lol
 

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Have pretty good self esteem, I’m tall, fit (she texted me after our first date straight up saying how much she liked that I’m tall and handsome and great personality), have my own business making damn good money. Reason for the thread is just that I am definitely starting to get oneitis for her, have never been with a girl like this at all. HB9 that’s extremely cool and down to earth. Might be a BPD with how much affection she shows, seems like love bombing but I think a lot of it is just being born in Russia and raised that way because my buddy dated a chick that was raised in Russia too that was just like that. Been with a legit BPD before so hoping it’s not that lol
You can deny and and tell me you're an adonis millionaire until the sun goes out, if you really were sure of yourself you still wouldn't have made this thread. May fortune be with you on her mental diagnosis.
 
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