"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Girl vs guy frioend..Is having girl as a frind hurts?

Canadien

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So, after starting my DJ path 1 year ago, I have gone from almost no dates and contact with girls to casual dates on daily basis if I want, as, I just get these girls over a free vegan food they serve at university or the cafe shop, however the list of girls that I can hang out with is growing daily now...

And, there is nothing said about being a friend, its a grey area, and I like it that way, as I'm growing each day and learning so many thing, but should I initiate something? I have almost perfect chemistry with these girls, and its making me comfortable by the day, but then what do you guys think? is having girl as a friend bad thing?

Right now, I'm approaching and gettimng numbers from every girl that interests me, even I'm amazed at the results, so how do you guys handle when it gets easy to hang out with girls?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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nightcrawler

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I really don't think it's possible for me to have girls as friends...it simply doesn't happen. Anybody else experience this?

My focus these past months has been to make friends to hang out with because I feel really lonely. I've tried making friends with girls but after awhile they start ignoring me to the point where they won't look at me!

Right now my aim isn't to get a girlfriend, though losing the virginity would be nice.
 

Leporello

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I don't think it's a problem. Yeah if you're very attracted to them it can get awkward, but in my experience that's easier to get over than you'd think. The world is full of women.
 
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