Skyline
Master Don Juan
I think it's an actual restaurant and he was using coffee as an example. Dishes are probably in the $30+ ranges.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Girl suggests we have first date at expensive club/bar
- Thread starter QuadDeuces
- Start date
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
QuadDeuces
Master Don Juan
It was not going to be a coffee date at 8pm.
I used coffee as an example, a beer went for the same price, c0cktails 25.
I'm just not a sucker like most men on OLD who are happy to pay for dates and then be surprised they do not get laid afterwards but the broke guy on the street who pays them no attention does. Like the saying beta bucks, alpha fvcks.
I used coffee as an example, a beer went for the same price, c0cktails 25.
I'm just not a sucker like most men on OLD who are happy to pay for dates and then be surprised they do not get laid afterwards but the broke guy on the street who pays them no attention does. Like the saying beta bucks, alpha fvcks.
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
If she's ordering c0cktails plural then you'd certainly get laid
Winner! Least amount of confidence displayed by SS member in his ability to score with drunk woman. Bonus points! Tries to shamelessly take sympathy and economics angle! Don't worry Deuce, there are lots of frat boys here who will say you did the right thing.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Had a chick pull this on me years ago. She suggested the most expensive place in town for our first date. I suggested another more simpler place since this would have been date one. She was adamant saying she wanted to go to expensive place with the justification "I've never been there and have always wanted to go." I said that i would prefer some place a little more toned down. How about we save the fancy place for a later date here is how the rest of our conversation went.
Her -"Oh come on I've always wanted to go to the Estrel. I have never been and think it would be awesome."
Me "how about this. Tonight will go to Kelseys and we will save the Estrel for another night down then road. Sound good?"
Her "mmmmm."
Me "what's the matter?"
Her " you're not a tight wad are you? "
Me " ok. Fine. Lets go the Estrel. Dinner is on you tonight."
Her " WTF? Uh no!"
Me smiling from ear to ear, " what's wrong? You're not a cheap tight wad are you?"
She sat dumbfounded for about 20 seconds saying nothing then i said "don't slam the car door on your way out. Dates over."