sunnykhatri736
Don Juan
I have been talking to a girl since last 10 days and i have got a date with her this sunday . She is showing very high interest level and chasing me. Should i go for kiss on the first date itself ?
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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
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Girl showing very high IL. Should i go for kiss on first date ?
- Thread starter sunnykhatri736
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Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
I dislike speaking in absolutes, because it's rarely the case one method works for every situation. It really depends on the woman (and her interest in you), but pushing for sex on every first date is sometimes going to drive the woman away (though it can certainly bring you closer as well, even if she says no). Here's a quote from GotED? (full thread here: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/index.php?threads/my-life-advice-in-becoming-a-dj.227989/) presenting a different viewpoint, for your consideration marmel:
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Don't seek sex on initial dates. Women are so used to this - and you give away most of your power and frame when you act just like all the other lusty dogs she's had to fight off in the past. Instead, act secure, confident, and without neediness - she will be confused and uncertain how to respond to a man who doesn't try the moves on her to get her into bed. However, over a period of initial dates without any actions, she will start to cook slowly and look forward to the moment you will take her. If not, walk away - she was never worth it in the first place as she is probably a repeated leg spreader.
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@sunnykhatri736, in response to your post, yes of course you should go for a kiss. If she's interested in you, she'll be happy that you're making a move, and may even want you to go further. I notice you're from India. What's the dating culture like there?
SmooveMooves
Master Don Juan
Wtf??!! Hell no. Extend your hand for a nice warm handshake. If you go for a kiss she'll think you're moving too fast.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
parkthebus
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Are you posting from Saudi?
Bingo-Player
Master Don Juan
yes absolutley , she will be expecting it and will be dissapointed if you dont
Serenity
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Some say do, some say don't. You won't know until you're there in the moment, follow your gut I say.
sunnykhatri736
Don Juan
Here in india ... girls are very consious about sex. They make a deal when it comes to sex n all... but yeah kiss is not a big deal.. sex is big deal for girls here. Girls who are rich and follow western culture are okay with sex and FWB but normal girls or middle class girls react weirdly when it comes to sex . They create a issue out of it .
When it comes to my post.
In reply to all of your answers " im not that interested in her that much she is interested. . I asked her out for a date on sunday . She agreed and then she called and fixed the date on saturday.. she is the one calling me and texting me and if im busy or not available then she double texts me and if i dont reply then she asks something else. She is calling me " baby , love , and she keeps on saying me that im very cute and i have a cute voice "
I confirmed the place for date near her house . Its 1 hr away from me and 20 min. Away from her place but she said that " baby i dont want u to come that far so i will come near ur house and then we fixed the date near my house. "
So i will just go n have fun with her and then if she gives me signals then i would directly go for the kiss. Otherwise on second date.
When it comes to my post.
In reply to all of your answers " im not that interested in her that much she is interested. . I asked her out for a date on sunday . She agreed and then she called and fixed the date on saturday.. she is the one calling me and texting me and if im busy or not available then she double texts me and if i dont reply then she asks something else. She is calling me " baby , love , and she keeps on saying me that im very cute and i have a cute voice "
I confirmed the place for date near her house . Its 1 hr away from me and 20 min. Away from her place but she said that " baby i dont want u to come that far so i will come near ur house and then we fixed the date near my house. "
So i will just go n have fun with her and then if she gives me signals then i would directly go for the kiss. Otherwise on second date.
jcjetty
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The best first date advice I've ever ran across. If you have any doubt.... Do not hesitate give her a kiss on the check look her in the eyes and say I've had fun maybe we should do this again! Turn around and walk away! You just showed confidence enough to initiate that kind of contact with out setting off her alarms! Plus I can promise you no other guy she has been with has taken this approach! Your confident and unique. Let her think about that for a while.
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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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Women from different countries might be different in some ways but they are the same in more ways. They all have the same fantasies, they all want that c0ck, and they all want guys who take what they want when they want it.
Next question.
Next question.
RangerMIke
Master Don Juan
What do you want from this woman?
If you are interested in making her a long term thing and you are sure she has high interest.... make her wait. Set up the logistics for sex the next date and she'll tear your clothes off. This is called working challenge.
If it's just a casual thing go ahead and try to seduce her... you're a man.... that is what men do.
If you are interested in making her a long term thing and you are sure she has high interest.... make her wait. Set up the logistics for sex the next date and she'll tear your clothes off. This is called working challenge.
If it's just a casual thing go ahead and try to seduce her... you're a man.... that is what men do.
sunnykhatri736
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I want long term relationship with her .
marmel75
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How do you know this? You haven't even been on a date yet...talk about having no value on yourself...
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
AttackFormation
Master Don Juan
Yeah... known her for 10 days and the guy already wants to give his balls to her?
sunny-boy, I think you need to step back and ask some yourself the real questions...
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
This thread is culture clash.
sunnykhatri736
Don Juan
Yeah i agree from all of you that i just know her since 10 days and i already decided that without even going out with her on a date. Thats true. I got carried away. Now i wont commit that mistake again of thinking of LTR without even knowing her properly. I will stick to DJ bible principles. I will just have fun with her , date her and notice even small flaws about her and then after 6 months i will think of LTR not before then that. Before that i will just think of sleeping with her .