"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Girl said LJBF, keep her as friend or next her?

VictorK

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Went out with this girl a few times and she displayed all the signs of interest (prolonging convo, hair touching, kino, you know them all). I guess shes a tease. Anyways she says a few days ago she enjoys my company and wants to keep it as 'friends'.

I guess im never gonna get out of friends zone once i'm in so what should i do? Keep her to hang around with as a friend, or just straight out NEXT her.

I'm sure everyguy goes though this at one point or another and yea its a blow to your ego and sux.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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biker_gixxer

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Originally posted by rgeere
Say "No thanks, I see you as an aquaintance" next time you get that line ... Then use that to get her into a state of supplication to earn your friendship. She will begin to be more open to having sex with you then also.
Good one rgeere.

Personally, I would next her. When a girl says she wants to 'keep it as friends', it means she's not interested. Sounds like she was at first, but something may have happened to make her change her mind, now she wants to move on in a 'nice' way.

Did you call her to much or come off needy? Did you pose a challenge to her or did you make it easy? See what I'm driving at bro?
 

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Thanks for the responses guys,

I was a challange to her totally. I called her only to 'set up dates' and the convo never lasted more then 5 minutes and i always ended it. Our dates went really well, she did 70% of the talking about herself, thought i did it all right, guess not. Something went wrong.

She knows im interested because if we get together i have to initiate it. Plus kino, ec, and all.

Anyways, the way she said it, it basically was like to stop any idea about taking it to the next level. Kinda like the polite way
of dumping someone before it gets messy.


If i use rgeere's quote im pretty sure this girl and i would lose
all contact because she seems stubborn in that way. But i guess NEXTING her might be the only way to go.
 

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Originally posted by VictorK
If i use rgeere's quote im pretty sure this girl and i would lose
all contact because she seems stubborn in that way. But i guess NEXTING her might be the only way to go.
And your point is?

If you are going to next her then why not use the line anyways?

How do you know she is not trying the "friend's first rule" because she is interested in you?

It's not too late; the only other alternative to not nexting her is to use her as social proof. If you have to be around this girl alot that is a good alternative to just out and out ignoring her like the forlorn 'sons of milkmen' that we all are ...

And don't start that "you are" crap," I hate that.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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And don't start that "you are" crap," I hate that.

What do you mean by this? I don't understand.

I might think about using her as social proof, but i'm not gonna waste my time on trying to have a 'friend' when i could be out meeting more girls.

Thanks guys
 

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Originally posted by VictorK
And don't start that "you are" crap, I hate that.
Never mind that statement ...

Yeah, friendship is a control girls use against guys to manipulate them. Unless they are activelly persueing a friendship with you and supplicating to get the friendhip the benefits of having her around isn't worth the maintenance involved to keep her around.

In other words, if she isn't giving it, then you are owned...
 

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go read Mr Fingers post on "Escaping The Friend Zone"
 

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Originally posted by b's nuts
i bet she has other friends that are girls, try and touch their boobies.


damn! you want him to get caught by the authorities for sexual harrassment? its not gonna be pretty.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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