"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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girl msg me to whine about work?

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i havent spoken to her much cause we just met but i got a msg today from her about somethin that happened at work. like someone told her to do something on the pc and then they stuffed up. do i even reply to these rant/vent msgs?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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no. dont become an emotional tampon for her. Instead lead the conversation where you want it to go!
 

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so don't ignore it, instead change the topic and talk about something else?
 

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yes, IF she is a prospect to be drafted into your stable. If she keeps veering her conversation towards the work problem(s), she has little or no interest.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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For f*ck sake. These guys tell you not to be her emotional tampon, but they don't realise that girls are, like men, human beings too with emotions and want some empathy and understanding. You don't have to act like her psychologist, but you can just be a human and acknowledge her as a human being by sending something like ''sorry to hear you had such a bad day'' and leave it at that. You don't lose your alphaness, macho image, DJ status or whatever the f*ck this forum teaches by sending a short message back.
 

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Ha! What you do in this case is call her up and say:

"Hey listen sweetheart. Let's make your day a whole lot better! Let's get together tonight for [insert fun activity here]. I'll pick you up at 8:00. Wear something sexy!"

You guys have to learn to recognize and seize opportunities.

If she doesn't accept, well, you know she was just bored and wanted the attention of whatever chump was willing to give it her.
 

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J. Darko said:
You don't have to act like her psychologist, but you can just be a human and acknowledge her as a human being by sending something like ''sorry to hear you had such a bad day'' and leave it at that.
Why should one apologize for something one didn't do? Sure, if I fvck up and I'm guilty of something, I apologize and learn from whatever the fvck I did wrong. However, if I have no control over how sh!tty her boss/job/etc. is, why should I take an apologetic, beta-like attitude?

Like I said, instead turn the situation around to get together and have fun with the girl.
 

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vatoloco said:
Why should one apologize for something one didn't do? Sure, if I fvck up and I'm guilty of something, I apologize and learn from whatever the fvck I did wrong. However, if I have no control over how sh!tty her boss/job/etc. is, why should I take an apologetic, beta-like attitude?

Like I said, instead turn the situation around to get together and have fun with the girl.
''Sorry to hear'' is a saying, not an actual apology. You could also say: too bad to hear that blabla.
 

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J. Darko said:
''Sorry to hear'' is a saying, not an actual apology. You could also say: too bad to hear that blabla.
But, if he's going to reply via text (which I know it's likely he will -- less chance of getting rejected that way ;)) what she will see is the word "Sorry" on her phone screen w/o any kind of body language clues to emphasize that it's being used empathetically instead of apologetically.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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J. Darko said:
For f*ck sake. These guys tell you not to be her emotional tampon, but they don't realise that girls are, like men, human beings too with emotions and want some empathy and understanding. You don't have to act like her psychologist, but you can just be a human and acknowledge her as a human being by sending something like ''sorry to hear you had such a bad day'' and leave it at that. You don't lose your alphaness, macho image, DJ status or whatever the f*ck this forum teaches by sending a short message back.
Your lack of experience and failures have taken over your ability to listen to people who know what they're talking about (there's people here with YEARS/DECADES of real experience). Not some guy that 8 months ago was crying about being socially awkward and not having a place in this world!

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To the OP:

It's hard to lead a woman out of a bad emotional state through text. So, if a woman does something like that to me, i let them talk very briefly about what is going on; then i offer to meet them (if i have room to meet them); then when they are with me - i can easily lead their brains wherever i want.

A woman complaining about her bad day to my face is wayyyyy easier to seduce into a good mood (followed by $ex) than one who's communicating to me through an outlet where she is in her own domain (email, text, IM, or phone)

The way I personally lead women through text is something like this:

Woman: Im having such a bad day. My boss is such a.... blah blah blah
Me: Baby it sounds like you need some relaxation in your life. when do you get to relax?
Woman: I don't ever get to relax! My whole life is blah blah blah....
Me: Well i was planning to [buy a bottle of wine/go to X bar] tonight... You're welcome to come to me and have a few drinks, a few smiles, and a lot of relaxation.

unless she already has plans - she'll jump on it.

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On a sidenote: I wouldn't be so concerned with how to respond, but more so with why a woman you just meant is dumping her emotional BS on you! Any woman who does things like that is more socially awkward than J. Darko is.
 

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tony-montana said:
so don't ignore it, instead change the topic and talk about something else?
Think of it this way, she's contacting you so she's investing. First you need to reward her investment. Do this by giving her good emotions, which is where some solid ****y/funny comes into play. Second you need to steer her attention in the direction you want it to go, otherwise you end up her new girlfriend she'll talk about shoes with and the guy that disrespects her but she can't get enough sex from.
 

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bukowski_merit said:
Your lack of experience and failures have taken over your ability to listen to people who know what they're talking about (there's people here with YEARS/DECADES of real experience). Not some guy that 8 months ago was crying about being socially awkward and not having a place in this world!

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To the OP:

It's hard to lead a woman out of a bad emotional state through text. So, if a woman does something like that to me, i let them talk very briefly about what is going on; then i offer to meet them (if i have room to meet them); then when they are with me - i can easily lead their brains wherever i want.

A woman complaining about her bad day to my face is wayyyyy easier to seduce into a good mood (followed by $ex) than one who's communicating to me through an outlet where she is in her own domain (email, text, IM, or phone)

The way I personally lead women through text is something like this:

Woman: Im having such a bad day. My boss is such a.... blah blah blah
Me: Baby it sounds like you need some relaxation in your life. when do you get to relax?
Woman: I don't ever get to relax! My whole life is blah blah blah....
Me: Well i was planning to [buy a bottle of wine/go to X bar] tonight... You're welcome to come to me and have a few drinks, a few smiles, and a lot of relaxation.

unless she already has plans - she'll jump on it.

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On a sidenote: I wouldn't be so concerned with how to respond, but more so with why a woman you just meant is dumping her emotional BS on you! Any woman who does things like that is more socially awkward than J. Darko is.
Things have changed my friend. Better not to judge so soon. By the way, you're just a screen name on a computer. You might be a virgin and acting all tough now, so don't.
 
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