"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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girl msg me to whine about work?

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i havent spoken to her much cause we just met but i got a msg today from her about somethin that happened at work. like someone told her to do something on the pc and then they stuffed up. do i even reply to these rant/vent msgs?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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no. dont become an emotional tampon for her. Instead lead the conversation where you want it to go!
 

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so don't ignore it, instead change the topic and talk about something else?
 

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yes, IF she is a prospect to be drafted into your stable. If she keeps veering her conversation towards the work problem(s), she has little or no interest.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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For f*ck sake. These guys tell you not to be her emotional tampon, but they don't realise that girls are, like men, human beings too with emotions and want some empathy and understanding. You don't have to act like her psychologist, but you can just be a human and acknowledge her as a human being by sending something like ''sorry to hear you had such a bad day'' and leave it at that. You don't lose your alphaness, macho image, DJ status or whatever the f*ck this forum teaches by sending a short message back.
 

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Ha! What you do in this case is call her up and say:

"Hey listen sweetheart. Let's make your day a whole lot better! Let's get together tonight for [insert fun activity here]. I'll pick you up at 8:00. Wear something sexy!"

You guys have to learn to recognize and seize opportunities.

If she doesn't accept, well, you know she was just bored and wanted the attention of whatever chump was willing to give it her.
 

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J. Darko said:
You don't have to act like her psychologist, but you can just be a human and acknowledge her as a human being by sending something like ''sorry to hear you had such a bad day'' and leave it at that.
Why should one apologize for something one didn't do? Sure, if I fvck up and I'm guilty of something, I apologize and learn from whatever the fvck I did wrong. However, if I have no control over how sh!tty her boss/job/etc. is, why should I take an apologetic, beta-like attitude?

Like I said, instead turn the situation around to get together and have fun with the girl.
 

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vatoloco said:
Why should one apologize for something one didn't do? Sure, if I fvck up and I'm guilty of something, I apologize and learn from whatever the fvck I did wrong. However, if I have no control over how sh!tty her boss/job/etc. is, why should I take an apologetic, beta-like attitude?

Like I said, instead turn the situation around to get together and have fun with the girl.
''Sorry to hear'' is a saying, not an actual apology. You could also say: too bad to hear that blabla.
 

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J. Darko said:
''Sorry to hear'' is a saying, not an actual apology. You could also say: too bad to hear that blabla.
But, if he's going to reply via text (which I know it's likely he will -- less chance of getting rejected that way ;)) what she will see is the word "Sorry" on her phone screen w/o any kind of body language clues to emphasize that it's being used empathetically instead of apologetically.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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J. Darko said:
For f*ck sake. These guys tell you not to be her emotional tampon, but they don't realise that girls are, like men, human beings too with emotions and want some empathy and understanding. You don't have to act like her psychologist, but you can just be a human and acknowledge her as a human being by sending something like ''sorry to hear you had such a bad day'' and leave it at that. You don't lose your alphaness, macho image, DJ status or whatever the f*ck this forum teaches by sending a short message back.
Your lack of experience and failures have taken over your ability to listen to people who know what they're talking about (there's people here with YEARS/DECADES of real experience). Not some guy that 8 months ago was crying about being socially awkward and not having a place in this world!

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To the OP:

It's hard to lead a woman out of a bad emotional state through text. So, if a woman does something like that to me, i let them talk very briefly about what is going on; then i offer to meet them (if i have room to meet them); then when they are with me - i can easily lead their brains wherever i want.

A woman complaining about her bad day to my face is wayyyyy easier to seduce into a good mood (followed by $ex) than one who's communicating to me through an outlet where she is in her own domain (email, text, IM, or phone)

The way I personally lead women through text is something like this:

Woman: Im having such a bad day. My boss is such a.... blah blah blah
Me: Baby it sounds like you need some relaxation in your life. when do you get to relax?
Woman: I don't ever get to relax! My whole life is blah blah blah....
Me: Well i was planning to [buy a bottle of wine/go to X bar] tonight... You're welcome to come to me and have a few drinks, a few smiles, and a lot of relaxation.

unless she already has plans - she'll jump on it.

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On a sidenote: I wouldn't be so concerned with how to respond, but more so with why a woman you just meant is dumping her emotional BS on you! Any woman who does things like that is more socially awkward than J. Darko is.
 

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tony-montana said:
so don't ignore it, instead change the topic and talk about something else?
Think of it this way, she's contacting you so she's investing. First you need to reward her investment. Do this by giving her good emotions, which is where some solid ****y/funny comes into play. Second you need to steer her attention in the direction you want it to go, otherwise you end up her new girlfriend she'll talk about shoes with and the guy that disrespects her but she can't get enough sex from.
 

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bukowski_merit said:
Your lack of experience and failures have taken over your ability to listen to people who know what they're talking about (there's people here with YEARS/DECADES of real experience). Not some guy that 8 months ago was crying about being socially awkward and not having a place in this world!

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To the OP:

It's hard to lead a woman out of a bad emotional state through text. So, if a woman does something like that to me, i let them talk very briefly about what is going on; then i offer to meet them (if i have room to meet them); then when they are with me - i can easily lead their brains wherever i want.

A woman complaining about her bad day to my face is wayyyyy easier to seduce into a good mood (followed by $ex) than one who's communicating to me through an outlet where she is in her own domain (email, text, IM, or phone)

The way I personally lead women through text is something like this:

Woman: Im having such a bad day. My boss is such a.... blah blah blah
Me: Baby it sounds like you need some relaxation in your life. when do you get to relax?
Woman: I don't ever get to relax! My whole life is blah blah blah....
Me: Well i was planning to [buy a bottle of wine/go to X bar] tonight... You're welcome to come to me and have a few drinks, a few smiles, and a lot of relaxation.

unless she already has plans - she'll jump on it.

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On a sidenote: I wouldn't be so concerned with how to respond, but more so with why a woman you just meant is dumping her emotional BS on you! Any woman who does things like that is more socially awkward than J. Darko is.
Things have changed my friend. Better not to judge so soon. By the way, you're just a screen name on a computer. You might be a virgin and acting all tough now, so don't.
 
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