"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Well, this threw up a huge red flag for me.

I found out a week or so ago that one of my good friends likes me, through one of her friends and she confirmed it later. Problem is, she's expecting me to ask her out or hit on her while she still has boyfriend. She went out with the kid for 3 weeks and then dumped him "because he was acting gay." Next day he asks her out and she says yes, again. It doesn't help that I've been gaming her cousin for a while, too.

At the moment, she's ticked off at me for not jumping all over the chance to be with her.

Am I over-reacting or is this a next?

If it's a next, I'd still like to be friends with her.

(I'd say she's an HB7ish, kinda prude, but what can I do? It's 8th grade.)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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daamn, i wish i found this site as soon as you did.

neways, its your choice. If you want her go for it, if not then just keep her as a friend.
But heres a tip, you never know when one day they just turn hot, so keep gaming her. Something I've experienced lots of times.
 

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Your situation is a little similar to another thread that just got posted in this forum.
Check out my post in this thread, although it may not have been directed to your problem, there are some vital points that can definetly help you out.

URL: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=134733

Hope I helped.
 

Crazy Asian

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noodle said:
daamn, i wish i found this site as soon as you did.

neways, its your choice. If you want her go for it, if not then just keep her as a friend.
But heres a tip, you never know when one day they just turn hot, so keep gaming her. Something I've experienced lots of times.
haha i know.
like in 7th grade, u'd be like "get the fvck away from my u ugly b1tch!"

then in highschool it's like "holy sh1t! *drool*"
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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lol gaming works in the 8th grade?
I loosely read the Bible last year and I'm upping the aggressiveness of my game as time goes on and I can tell the people around me mature.

I'm 5'11" and 170 pounds, I can easily say I'm older. I've hooked up with 6 girls in the past year. The girl's cousin that I mention was the first time that I stopped to analyze what I was doing and she's into me.

I feel more confident in myself, but I can't tell you how I was before, because I was in one relationship before I came around here (which was my first experience with a slut, so it didn't go too well.) Hey, it seems like it's working, so I just keep going.
 

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holy ****, ur bigger than me and im like 6 yrs older
 

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Don't go for it. These always end badly.
 

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Well, I'm dealing with the same girl, she ditched her boyfriend and it's been a week or two. It's obvious she likes me, all her friends bug me to death to ask her out.

Do you guys have any C/F ways of asking girls to be your girlfriend?

I'm not afraid to do it bluntly, but it would be nice for keeping my value high going into the relationship. I'm willing to take a break from the game for a bit and I haven't been able to get to 1st base since October, it's a bit frustrating.
 

I.A.F.Y.B.

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Just ask her out plain and simple. Your only 13 years old it don't matter.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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