"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Girl liked me and than later on told me she wasn't ready for a relationship

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Known this girl for like 3 months. She was obsessed with me and showed clear signs of interest and all that other whiz. All of a sudden she started acting differently, but she would still go on dates and we would still fool around. Eventually I started asking good sources and they told me she liked me, but she wasn't ready for a relationship or some bullshvt like that. WTF women don't know what the fuq they want. She told me that she still wanted to be friends and that she was sorry and I told her I have enough friends and walked away. As a result, I'm going NC. I feel like ass right now though
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You are too cruel. It will hurt her feelings.
Bring her flowers and kneel in front of her saying you are sorry. :flowers:
 

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Sounds like it's time to next her, pick yourself up, and start dating other chicks. At minimum I would no contact her to see if she's really interested or not.
 

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Uncharted said:
Sounds like it's time to next her, pick yourself up, and start dating other chicks. At minimum I would no contact her to see if she's really interested or not.
Like it's bullshvt because she kept begging my friends to hook me up with her, and I gave in and gave her a chance. She's probably going to try and make a third appearance.
 

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She likes you, but she doesnt want you to be her bf, maybe she just wants to **** you?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Did u pursue a relationship with her? If so, that is your problem..make them always pursue by using them for sex and hanging only until they prove themselves worthy.
 

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There's also the possibility that she's sh!t testing you.

Most of the girls I fvck and/or date say that they don't want a relationship, they're "emotionally unavailable", or some similar nonsense.

The proper response is to say "that's perfect, me either" and keep fvcking her, and having with with her. Eventually they start to crack and ask you for the commitment. She wants to feel like she's won something valuable.

It's standard.


Some girls are a little more passive and get frustrated after you've fvcked them for a while with no discussion of commitment, the "l" word, or calling them your "girlfriend." They feel that it's your place to put a label on it. I dated a very conservative, HOT 25yo (natural beauty) last year and I think I hit this wall with her. I wouldn't budge, neither would she. They will back off and if you don't chase them or offer them the commitment, they have enough leverage that they can keep their distance from you.


So it could be that, or a sh!t test, or as PairPlusRoyalFlush suggested, there's a guy who has captured her interest more.
 

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You always gotta be able to let them walk if you don't like what's going on. The more you give in to something you're not comfortable with, the worse things will get. You did the right thing. You dodged a bullet.
 

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If you get that, she's doesn't want a relationship with YOU. There's a better man in the picture. Sorry.

Get equipped.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Had that, I ignored it, banged her and the morning after, I got a relationship request sent via Facebook lol. Then it was my turn to tell her we should keep it a secret for now and surprise our friends later (yeah right) lolololozzzzz
 

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you still haven't told us the details...have any of you before ever hinted at a relationship and who contacts who the most and stuff like that....basically have you felt like you had a higher IL than her before this happened????try and be objective here...maybe she felt like you were pushing for the relationship...women think they are physchic on stuff liek this and actually their intuition on such things is pretty good more times than not..

It could be you offered no challenge or she just met someone who she is more attracted to and/or is more challenging than you...or maybe you are not that good in the sack or intimate enough...could be all sorts of things..we need details to know..

Just from reading your OP...i get the feeling that you hinted toward a relationship more than her and she became bored...
 

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I was probably less of a challenge most likely, but she had more interest than me at first. It really doesnt matter now. If she wants to come back than she can make effort too.
 

zinc4

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it matters because it is a learning experience...never let your IL go above her's..ESPECIALLY in the beginning early stages....if your IL is too high at least try to hide it....i can understand being over confident because of her acting obsessed when she first met you...but women are fickle and you can't let your IL slip above her's....women and people in general need a challenge to feel satisfied...

NC this one immediately....then shut her down ruthlessly when she contacts again to see if she can still pull your strings...and she most likely will even if she has a new guy just to see if she still has power over you...
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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SirFratserlot

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Ya I understand. I feel like shell try to make a third appearance and ill know wat to do now.
 

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Exact same thing just happened to be bro. Intense interest from the girl, then hot/cold, sex, "needing space". I'd next and be done with it.
 

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Why do you feel like ****? You shouldn't have to play mind games if it was meant to work out. She liked you, but not enough to call you her bf. She's over it and you should be too.
 

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The only mistake was expecting a relationship.

Relationships come after sex, not before.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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