"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Girl is in a relationship but doesn't tell me

FunkyMillion

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I envited this girl to a date three weeks ago but she was "busy" then I found out today through 'research' that she has a boyfriend. I just don't get why she couldn't just tell me that she is in a relationship so I could've moved on two weeks ago. After all those times of trying to get in contact with her was a waste of time.

That should be a lesson... don't waste your time pursuing a girl when she turns you down the first time you ask her out. NEXT her right away.

Funk...out.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Le Parisien

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I feel you man, the same kind of thing happened to me some time back...:mad:
If you do a research on my old topics...

Some people are just plain selfish, they don't mind stringing people along, guess that's just life.

That should be a lesson... don't waste your time pursuing a girl when she turns you down the first time you ask her out. NEXT her right away.
But don't go extreme because of this unfirtunate "incident" though...
Just be more "wary" next time.

In my personal case, this kind of thing made me more "laid back" and less "enthusiast" right away now. Even if a girl shows big interest immediately, I still "wait" to see if it's really genuine and there's no hidden complications such as a boyfriend or something like this.
Most of the time, the girl DOES like you, but she's happier having the boyfriend AND YOUR ATTENTION.

Four of my personal experiences:

1) We know each other for a couple of months, we see each other on and off, but purely on a semi-official context: a language club. Over the time, something developped and I was thinking about going for more. She seemed ok with it but some times would be "busy". (I don't assume automatically that people are liars, they always have ONE chance). When I find out through a mutual friend (actually more her friend than mine) that she has a boyfriend, I was pissed. Didn't cut all contact, but it became pretty cold...

2) Some girl I met through the musical I was doing. Britney Spears wanna be type. Showing too "early" all the signs of interest, turned out to be a fraud, actuallyhas a boyfriend and her boyfriend started to ignore her for some reason so she was probably looking for compensation. Same as the first one, relationship became cold after I found out.

3) A girl I liked who also liked me. Sometimes seems interested, sometimes totally not. Looks like she was undecided. Never lied to me about a long distance boyfriend, but never mentioned it either, I learned through other people.
Because of previous experience, I said to myself "no no". Eventually she broke up with the nerdy boyfriend but our relationship is so complicated and looked more like a friendship that I didn't even bother.

4) A real gorgeous and kind of shy girl who came talk to me on the bus for a school event. Had a boyfriend who looked kinda like a abusive thuggish dude. This one was genuine. She sure wanted to drop the boyfriend. But due to social circumstances that would be too long to explain here, I couldn't get to interact with her except a few very brief exchanges in the school dining hall.

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Yes your mistake was waiting around for 2 weeks.
 

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I find that if a girl is genuinely interested in you, she'll tell you. Not immediately. But probably after a few dates about the bf.
Because they know that you'll wind up resenting them for hiding the truth...you cant hide it forever.
 

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Originally posted by FunkyMillion
I envited this girl to a date three weeks ago but she was "busy" then I found out today through 'research' that she has a boyfriend. I just don't get why she couldn't just tell me that she is in a relationship so I could've moved on two weeks ago. After all those times of trying to get in contact with her was a waste of time.

That should be a lesson... don't waste your time pursuing a girl when she turns you down the first time you ask her out. NEXT her right away.

Funk...out.
Any number of reasons! One, she has no intention of ditching her boyfriend, but just likes torturing people. So she won't pull the boyfriend card as the reason she is turning a guy down. She wants the interested guy to wonder what is going on, keep trying a little bit and suffer, feeling bad about himself.

Another possibility: she doesn't want it widely known that she has a boyfriend. Maybe she's not that firm about him, and will ditch him if a better opportunity comes along. If she tells you she has a boyfriend, you might tell other guys and so on. That could discourage some of these guys from hitting on her. Sounds like you had to do a bit of detective work to find out about that BF.

Think about it. Suppose a guy that she IS interested in asked her out. She'd probably also not tell him that she has a boyfriend, just like she didn't tell you. Except that she'd also say yes to going out.

She's just consistent with the misinformation that she puts out, whether she is interested in you or not. It's a good strategy. People talk, right? When they talk, they easily discover that a certain person puts out conflicting information and is therefore lying half the time. (it doesn't matter which half!!!) If the information is consistent, they have to do detective work to find out that it's false.

It's a DJ thing to do: shut your mouth about having a girlfriend (or two, or three) already, whether you're talking to that HB9 or that HB6.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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FunkyMillion

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Yeah, I see what you all are saying... When I talked to her on the phone she seemed to be pretty nice. I'm guessing, the reason why she didn't have the nerve to say that she is in a relationship is because she didn't want to turn me down and/or reject me.

So I learned a lesson that when girls are not being reciprocating in the first attemp of asking her out, you should NEXT her right away. Don't even waste your time playing that psychic game or psychiatrist game of trying to figure out why she isn't returning your phone calls or why she's always busy. Spend your valuable time sarging another girl.

Funk...and I'm out
 

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Originally posted by FunkyMillion

So I learned a lesson that when girls are not being reciprocating in the first attemp of asking her out, you should NEXT her right away. Don't even waste your time playing that psychic game or psychiatrist game of trying to figure out why she isn't returning your phone calls or why she's always busy. Spend your valuable time sarging another girl.
FunkyMillion, Welcome to the beginning path of becoming a true DJ. Listen to your brain not your heart when it comes to relationship matters.
 
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