"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
girl im with right now..
- Thread starter sav
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
skinnydart
Master Don Juan
i just let it be known...
will inform you all of how the date went from here
Docs
Banned
You know what would make my day, if someone from here rigged up a camera to a internet enabled cell phone, and broadcasted it live, full dialogue and video.
Next, we all connect in with headsets and talk you though the date.
:crackup:
if i wasnt enjoying myself and wanting some action, i'd tell her to **** right off.. btw, it hink she's watching me type this as she's on the phone.. im a little tipsy right now...
i think im gonna rig up my webcam or something, so you guys can see me tell this hoe to go **** herself... too bad.. she's at least an hb8....
oh man, her voice is peircing my head... im getting annoyed..
is it disrespectful for a girl to be on the phone at your place while your at a date..? kind of... well im on sosuave... so i guess it equals out?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Docs
Banned
"Hey Biatch, what's more important, talking to your slutty friend or being on a date with me?"
- Forces her to pick
- Really displays that hidden Alpha Male side
- Displays sexualness
- Displays independance, the 'take no shiit" attitude.
Yeah, there's a KBDJ post for you! :crackup:
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*ahem*
Really, that's it though. If her friend/ex/whatever is more important then having focus on you, it would be a good time as any to show her that your front door lets people in AND OUT.
Docs
Banned
lol. You KNOW that's the next step to reality tv, live performance call in!
which would make this really fun...
im all for it haha... get like one of those bluetooth headsets... plug him in to our conference, and let us give him the play by play directions haha... would be something...
dunno how the visual would work...
Docs
Banned
Camera streamed though a cell phone INet, probably hacked (I don't know anything else, unless you got another buddy around with a laptop having that bluetooth connection.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Send her a text telling her to get the fvck out!sav said:
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Either text her or call her just to make it sink in, either way she'll get the message. :crackup:sav said:
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Francisco d'Anconia said:
did i do the right thing about keeping my options open and not totally severing ties with this girl? i mean if she was on the phone more then she was with me, AT MY PLACE, does it show lowered levels of interest? i think so, but it doesnt seem all dead... im working on a coupel girls right now... im a person that likes a LTR and it seems that its hard to find one nowadays... i think this girl was spinning more plates then i mam
man, it sucks, but ou well....i really find this girl attractive, but in no means am i willing to get disrespected like that...
fransicso, i respect your opinion, tell me how i should handle the situation with this girl? you seem to have more experience then i do in these situations, i've just come out of an LTR, so my game isnt as sharp as it used to be ;/
I would have treated this as a test...Docs said:
Doc's respone would have worked! At least something long those lines.
Dunno about that biatch part, depends on the girl, if she used "bad language".
My girlfriend used to talk on the phone when she was over. I basically was jokingly like like "huh... hey, get off the phone, this is you and me time, you know a DATE? But if you friend wants to join us, we might be able to work something out." Now she'll sit in the car when she gets to my apartment and just talk. She even started getting text messages while we would be watching a movie or having dinner, I made her put her phone on vibrate and in her purse. All I said was "oh my god, stop texting, I'm sure it can wait." Put her in her place you know? "Be a man!" hehe
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.