“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
girl im dating tells me shes making me wait for sex???
- Thread starter jamescr73
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What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
tracy Jaks
Don Juan
**** you all, you guys have no idea.
I was simply trying to say that if you have high interest level in the girl, and she knows youve been ****ing other girls,shes gunna be cautious!!!
Some of you guys seem to think you can get anyone into bed at the click of a finger, yea maybe you can get most of them, but some aint gunna be intersted thats just life + this chick dont wanna be used.
who does??
that chick thinks your gunna get what u want from her and then just leave her, she likes you man,she just desnt wanna get hurt.
She aint playing games, she just being realisitic, not all girls are sluts man.
I was simply trying to say that if you have high interest level in the girl, and she knows youve been ****ing other girls,shes gunna be cautious!!!
Some of you guys seem to think you can get anyone into bed at the click of a finger, yea maybe you can get most of them, but some aint gunna be intersted thats just life + this chick dont wanna be used.
who does??
that chick thinks your gunna get what u want from her and then just leave her, she likes you man,she just desnt wanna get hurt.
She aint playing games, she just being realisitic, not all girls are sluts man.
I agree 100% with ( . )( . ) here. I was going to post the same message but he beat me to it. Lets be honest here: she probably wants to have the upper hand in the relationship. I believe the whole theme of waiting for sex was done in Saving Silverman where the chick (who was ugly BTW, I would of nexted that ho had I be the man) said she'd stop having sex with him if he kept hanging out with a friend of his.
If he is seeing two girls, so what. I would do the same if my main girl was acting like a b***h like this girl is. Does this make the main gf's excuse any better? No. Its time people started acting like men around here instead of little girls who are the moral police. If I was the guy, I'd stop talking to her until she called back. I don't know what the club incident means but if she did wrong at the club then thats all the more reason for you to cut off contact until she calls back. If she talks to you and says whats wrong say, "Look, I'm not going to play your bulls**t games." Let her talk and if she defends her waiting for sex theory tell her to call back when she's ready to act mature because this behavior she has is immature.
My theory is that she has been condition, perhaps by past relationships, that she needs to be in charge. However since you started DJing on her, you probably came in control. She wants the power to switch to her end. What would happen if you submit and take your time? She has the d**k now and you got the p***y. Soon she will just own your ass in everything like many relationships.
If he is seeing two girls, so what. I would do the same if my main girl was acting like a b***h like this girl is. Does this make the main gf's excuse any better? No. Its time people started acting like men around here instead of little girls who are the moral police. If I was the guy, I'd stop talking to her until she called back. I don't know what the club incident means but if she did wrong at the club then thats all the more reason for you to cut off contact until she calls back. If she talks to you and says whats wrong say, "Look, I'm not going to play your bulls**t games." Let her talk and if she defends her waiting for sex theory tell her to call back when she's ready to act mature because this behavior she has is immature.
My theory is that she has been condition, perhaps by past relationships, that she needs to be in charge. However since you started DJing on her, you probably came in control. She wants the power to switch to her end. What would happen if you submit and take your time? She has the d**k now and you got the p***y. Soon she will just own your ass in everything like many relationships.
TwoDollahs
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Don't let her make you wait on sex. The ENTIRE time shes making you wait for sex, shes thinking of reasons to leave you, so you always have a potential lost. After you have sex with a girl she thinks of reasons to keep you because otherwise she would be a *****. My advice is to leave her, find some other girl to screw, then stick with that girl who'll give you the REAL respect you deserve. This girl thats making you wait for sex is NOT respecting you...
One of the main rules of keeping a harem is to make every girl feel special, to make her feel like she has something that others dont. Compliment her on whatever skill separates her from the other two girls. Tell her that you are tired of just sex, that you want something more special, a sort of connection between people. If she asks you to dump the two other girls, tell her that you can't do it. That you can't help yourself, but love the company of women. Tell her that if you promise her to dump the girls, you're not gonna do it anyways. And you don't want to do it, because you always keep your promises.
And then express all your fascination with her wonderful qualities in a horisontal plane.
And then express all your fascination with her wonderful qualities in a horisontal plane.
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Vronski I think your on to something here man. The only way Id ditch the other 2 girls is if we were bf/gf. So we were talking one night and we got on the subject of who asks who when it comes time to go to that step. See shes mentioned relationship stuff before, but at that time I figured it was still too early for that. Then she tells me that she thinks the guy should bring up the relationship stuff. I told her the girl should and she got kind of upset. I guess Ill just see what happens the next few weeks. But for now im not calling her, I just met a new girl last night, so its not like I dont have other options.
lilprincess_16
Don Juan
hahaha lol
lets address the situation...
girl doesnt wanna have sex w/ u
u wanna have sex w/ girl
u r fooling around w/ 2 other girls
girl is right for not having sex w/ u...
and then guys wonder why the girls say the majority of the guy population are jerks... *just smiles to herself*
the girl apparently doesn't trust u enuff to have sex w/ u...perhaps she's having doubts about whether she would be comfortable w/ u...i've turned down guys for sex becuz u could tell they were desperate and only w/ u for one reason...mayb ur letting ur desperate side sho too much? or she's thinking of reasons to break up w/ u...instead y dont u go ask her? im pretty sure she'll tell u why...if she says she's not ready or sumthing like that...back off or dump her...if u r really that desperate for sex...
~my 2 cents~
lets address the situation...
girl doesnt wanna have sex w/ u
u wanna have sex w/ girl
u r fooling around w/ 2 other girls
girl is right for not having sex w/ u...
and then guys wonder why the girls say the majority of the guy population are jerks... *just smiles to herself*
the girl apparently doesn't trust u enuff to have sex w/ u...perhaps she's having doubts about whether she would be comfortable w/ u...i've turned down guys for sex becuz u could tell they were desperate and only w/ u for one reason...mayb ur letting ur desperate side sho too much? or she's thinking of reasons to break up w/ u...instead y dont u go ask her? im pretty sure she'll tell u why...if she says she's not ready or sumthing like that...back off or dump her...if u r really that desperate for sex...
~my 2 cents~
lilprincess_16
Don Juan
lol i wasnt looking to have sex w/ him i wanted to know if he wanted sex w/ me...plus trust me i dont go for the desperate...last guy on the earth routine...im a hopeless romantic
princelydeeds
Master Don Juan
You have to make every woman you're with feel very special. The key here is to draw a fine line, without saying it directly you also have to make them feel like there is competition. When I meet women and they ask if Im seeing someone I always say I have friends. When im screwing them and they ask the same question I neither confirm nor deny the existence of other women in my life. It has nothing to do with them. I flat refuse to talk about it. I tell them that whoever is in my life doesnt apply to them unless we make a commitment unitl then I wont talk about it. If they trip I leave and won't call for a few days.
I dont think you should ever tell a woman you're sleeping with someone else. Make her feel like if she acts the way you want her to act there is the possiblibity that she could be the number one. If you have other women, play it cool don't always be available when she calls. Spend time with her, show her a great time then don't call for a day or two. Make her desire you, build up her drive to see you. Reward the good behavior with time but punish the bad, not by being mean, but by showing her she can easily be replaced. Show her without telling her that there are other women in your life. Tell her shes the best thing you've met; in a while, but dont ever act like without her your dance card is empty.
If you play it right she will work harder to impress you. If not screw her and move on. Next her
I dont think you should ever tell a woman you're sleeping with someone else. Make her feel like if she acts the way you want her to act there is the possiblibity that she could be the number one. If you have other women, play it cool don't always be available when she calls. Spend time with her, show her a great time then don't call for a day or two. Make her desire you, build up her drive to see you. Reward the good behavior with time but punish the bad, not by being mean, but by showing her she can easily be replaced. Show her without telling her that there are other women in your life. Tell her shes the best thing you've met; in a while, but dont ever act like without her your dance card is empty.
If you play it right she will work harder to impress you. If not screw her and move on. Next her
Revelry
Don Juan
Arrrghh!
It's quite depressing, the amount of sheer unadulterated crap that we can swim through here.
This site is about a paradigm change, and some of the replies above tell me that some people haven't read enough of the archive to 'get it'.
James:
1. Operate in your own sphere of influence. Don't ask 'why is she saying this' or say 'what a beeeatch, NEXT her'. Instead, consider what you've done. What could you have done differently? What didn't you do that you should have? That's the only way your game will improve.
So when (.)(.) says you shouldn't go through her hoops, I'd say 'reframe it, blast through her hoops, and give her some hoops of yours to jump through'.
2. You set the frame wrong. You seem to be confused. Either you set a frame of MLTRs (multiple long term relationships) when you start out - not something I do, but I know it's possible - or you decide that what you want is a g/f. You're swinging between the two frames at the moment. Thus, she's confused. She doesn't understand what you're getting at. You LEAD HER, not the other way around. That is the problem.
3. Addressing the situation (aka lil princess):
a) Girl WANTS to have sex with you.
b) You want to have sex with girl.
c) Girl doesn't know whether she's attracted to you enough (have YOU shown enough value).
d) Due to c), Anti-slut defence kicks in - she doesn't want to be seen as shagging the guy that has other girls.
Therefore, as mentioned in other posts, three options confront you:
i. (Vronski) Showing her how special she is. I'd put a different way, and show her how much value to her you have.
ii. Not seeing her again (last resort - if you've been with her for a month or two, she must be alright... therefore, stick with it, and work through your issue).
iii. Reframing the relationship - by which I mean, if you appear as a guy who will have plenty of girls, and aren't embarrassed by that, then many girls will accept it. This doesn't mean they're sluts. That's (Western) societal inhibitions placed upon everyone. Other cultures wouldn't have a problem with that mindset.
Incidentally, responding to this gem from the little princess in the midst (nothing against you personally - just the logic you employ)...
The day that a woman gives me a straight answer to that will be the day I pack up and move to Ur anus.
Not to mention the fact that you don't want to let her know you're getting frustrated. Please - just read the bloody bible / manual / archives.
Revelry
It's quite depressing, the amount of sheer unadulterated crap that we can swim through here.
This site is about a paradigm change, and some of the replies above tell me that some people haven't read enough of the archive to 'get it'.
James:
1. Operate in your own sphere of influence. Don't ask 'why is she saying this' or say 'what a beeeatch, NEXT her'. Instead, consider what you've done. What could you have done differently? What didn't you do that you should have? That's the only way your game will improve.
So when (.)(.) says you shouldn't go through her hoops, I'd say 'reframe it, blast through her hoops, and give her some hoops of yours to jump through'.
2. You set the frame wrong. You seem to be confused. Either you set a frame of MLTRs (multiple long term relationships) when you start out - not something I do, but I know it's possible - or you decide that what you want is a g/f. You're swinging between the two frames at the moment. Thus, she's confused. She doesn't understand what you're getting at. You LEAD HER, not the other way around. That is the problem.
3. Addressing the situation (aka lil princess):
a) Girl WANTS to have sex with you.
b) You want to have sex with girl.
c) Girl doesn't know whether she's attracted to you enough (have YOU shown enough value).
d) Due to c), Anti-slut defence kicks in - she doesn't want to be seen as shagging the guy that has other girls.
Therefore, as mentioned in other posts, three options confront you:
i. (Vronski) Showing her how special she is. I'd put a different way, and show her how much value to her you have.
ii. Not seeing her again (last resort - if you've been with her for a month or two, she must be alright... therefore, stick with it, and work through your issue).
iii. Reframing the relationship - by which I mean, if you appear as a guy who will have plenty of girls, and aren't embarrassed by that, then many girls will accept it. This doesn't mean they're sluts. That's (Western) societal inhibitions placed upon everyone. Other cultures wouldn't have a problem with that mindset.
Incidentally, responding to this gem from the little princess in the midst (nothing against you personally - just the logic you employ)...
aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh!
The day that a woman gives me a straight answer to that will be the day I pack up and move to Ur anus.
Not to mention the fact that you don't want to let her know you're getting frustrated. Please - just read the bloody bible / manual / archives.
Revelry
MysteryWoman
Master Don Juan
Either some guys are mentally retarded on this board, or just don't get. If you have told her that you are fcuking other girls (you slut!) why did you tell her this? I would never date a guy who is fcuking other girls on the side, I don't want to gets AIDS some other venomus transmitted disease. Just hope those other girls are fcuking other guys.
I just don't why the girl has bothered to waste three months of her life with you. She is has obivious serious issues.
I just don't why the girl has bothered to waste three months of her life with you. She is has obivious serious issues.
drZaius,
Actually what I am suggesting is that he gets 'more' from his relationships then only sex.
I'll give you a clear example: Do you prefer people value you for who you are or what you have? We live in a society where women judge guys by the cars they drive in the same way that men judge women by the kind of ass that they have. Want to know another thing? Even though most of us play along, we resent the hell out of it.
I'm suggesting that if she is not going to give in and have sex with him, he either chooses to NEXT her or he continues with the relationship and see if the sex follows in due time. Indeed, we have biological/primal urges which are certainly part of our relationships and should not be ignored. He needs to decide why he's in the relationship (if only for sex then a non-sexual relationship shold be ended promptly) and then make his plan of action and follow through with it.
Mystery Woman - not all women are your age and were brought up properly. You wouldn't beleive how easy it is to change morality of a 20 year old girl.
And the thing with keeping a harem is actually very honest. At least you tell and know about each other, and you stay within that company of sexual partners. Of course the chances of getting an STD are much higher, but at least the girls know what they choose to do.
Also the "wifes" usually have unconscious desire for submission - so they get satisfied that also.... It's not as bad as it sounds. With a good head of the harem the girls don't sleep around with other guys and get the benefit of getting threesomes if they're bi.
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
MysteryWoman
Master Don Juan
Don't understand what you are on about. It's not a question about who sleeping around, its about playing fair.
Oh yeah and this might shock you Vronski, there are as many bad girls out there as guys. Otherwise guys wouldn't ever get the opportunity to put it around. Fifty percent of women are unfaithful in marriages (I think it is the same for men).
Oh yeah and this might shock you Vronski, there are as many bad girls out there as guys. Otherwise guys wouldn't ever get the opportunity to put it around. Fifty percent of women are unfaithful in marriages (I think it is the same for men).
Bungo Pony
Master Don Juan
Women know that men are very sexual creatures. They know that men crave sex, and are almost always thinking about it. Women have discovered they can use it to their advantage, and give it to you whenever they feel like it. Even if you're an incredible DJ, they still have this one thing that they can dangle above your head.
Being in control of sex comes when you begin to have sex, and even before.
The best way to remain in control of sex is to be the first one who denies it, as hard as it may be. Like Strong Like Bull said, get her all hot & drippy, then say "it's getting late, I really need to be up early tomorrow". So what if you need to wank once in a while, it'll be worth it to keep the sex flowing. Women crave what they can't have, and if there are a few nights where she can't have sex with you, she'll be craving it even more.
Being in control of sex comes when you begin to have sex, and even before.
The best way to remain in control of sex is to be the first one who denies it, as hard as it may be. Like Strong Like Bull said, get her all hot & drippy, then say "it's getting late, I really need to be up early tomorrow". So what if you need to wank once in a while, it'll be worth it to keep the sex flowing. Women crave what they can't have, and if there are a few nights where she can't have sex with you, she'll be craving it even more.