"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
girl I dated sent me pics of her and another guy...what's it mean?
- Thread starter brekke
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
It sounds to me like this girl's IL is obviously quite high if she's willing to put up with the disrespectful behavior you've given her (you might consider it "your style" but, in my eyes, the things you've said and sent to her are disrespectful). Yes, she's basically telling you "please give me your attention" with the messages she's given you.
Now, if you're still interested in pursuing this girl, I would tone down the "a-holeness" a tad. It has obviously worked for you with this girl so I would keep doing the same, just scale it back a bit.
Now, this isn't a diss on you (you do what you gotta do) but more for the other readers. This isn't a quality girl (low self-esteem). She might be good for FWB but not for a LTR (well, at least if you want to good LTR
)Last_straw
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I agree there. A girl with high self-esteem would realize she's being disrespected and tell you off.vatoloco said:This isn't a quality girl (low self-esteem). She might be good for FWB but not for a LTR (well, at least if you want to good LTR
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Girls only bail if their interest drops past a certain point. If a girls IL is high she will stick around, no matter what else you do.brekke said:
I think the long and short of it is that your ratio of showing interest vs. playing games ways wayyy too skewed towards the latter. Any girl with half a wit about her will eventually get tired of the games (esp. if you haven't shown her enough benefits of sticking around) , even if her way of leaving seems "retarded" as you put it
I think this is the simple case where she doesn't have nearly enough invested emotionally to put up with whatever it was you were trying to do. Remember, push-pull pretty much always works, but being a d*** to her 24/7 will ultimately end in failure unless you legitimately got something going for you ($$, fame, etc.)
2crudedudes
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You call her a slvt/wh0re/etc for telling you about dudes she talks to or whatever, but you tell her about all your sexual encounters, and wonder if she's fvcking with you?
Think about that. You're being more of a slvt than she is, so then why are you even trippin on this?
I do not think guys can be sluts. I'll just ignore her and see if she can do the same.2crudedudes said:
I am a dumb*ss though. It's like every time I get a little close to a girl, I end up destroying it. I don't act like a jerk on purpose, it's just how I am.
Her last message.
This is from today. Someone with experience, please help me.
Is she like really emotional? Is there any way to reply to this crap?jesus christ, you just don't get it.
"you can not be honest or straightforward" + "you really are stupid" = jerk. I'm good at math!
this is just a joke. you are just some weird guy who likes to bug other people.
congratulations, you have succeeded!
I did not **** him! you are the one who obviously enjoys being with a lot of girls and then tells me all about it. it's been very interesting. really.
I don't have time for this anymore. you're right - our "dancing" days are over and out.
bye XXX. I don't believe in you, btw. and I don't believe in god either.
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I do not need any advice anymore. This girl is totally deranged. What the hell is wrong with
people like this? I will just put this up so you can see this psycho's mental progression.
I kind of hate her now. I lied about my name when we met, and told her after a month I guess.so now is everything hip hip hooray again? now i'm not a selfish wh*re anymore who does stupid things?
if someone is being superficial, it's you. you only like me for how I look. that's strange.
if i overlook all the jerky ways you have acted, you seem like you could be a nice guy after all. you probably are! just a shame that i haven't seen that much of that side of you.
(i'm not a wh*re. i'm not a slut. and i'm not stupid. just for your information)
i dont believe in you at all. you're probably lying about almost everything. you started our entire "relationship" with lying. not a good start, huh?
what does --------- mean, btw? probably something mean about me. wouldn't surprise me.
i would like to continue this relationship on a platonic basis, without some stupid pictures of me naked AND without you calling me different things. deal or no deal?
it's raining here.
Before I got mad at her, she was going to let me take some naked pictures to prove she cares about me. Not worth it at this point anyway.
This would have all been fine, except the thing I do not get is the "platonic" part. Why the hell would she even want that? She knows I do not want that too. Talk about a waste of time.
Is any of this stuff sh!t testing? Or is it just insanity?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Kailex
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You're obviously not posting YOUR half of the messages and probably with good reason. Whatever she's doing, she's reacting to what YOU are telling her, and since we can't see that since you haven't posted it, what do you want us to say?
To agree with you?
And if it's a waste of time, then it's also partly your fault.
It's been a month or so. You've both been wasting each other's time.
wasted-nick
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For her to be contacting you is an indication that she has low standards and does not value quality people.brekke said:
It seems like a good match; give her a call...
3countriesPlan
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hahahah ya I take the pics and girls get all shy and want them erasedLast_straw said:wonder if I could get away with that? My camera always makes this damn loud "click" sound when you take a pic, lol. Wouldn't want that to spoil the mood.
Me: Why don't you suck my **** baby?
Her: Ok
*CLICK*
Her: What the fvck was that?
Me: Nothing
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
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Sorry about that, just re-read what I posted and see how you may have taken offense to it. I guess what I eas trying to say is that you sound like a douchebag.brekke said:
What kind of girl could she be to put up with that? Do you really think she's quality if she puts up with it?
Turn the tables, would you put up with that crap?
Korrupt
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See, this is where you went wrong. You're supposed to send her a pic with THREE girls sucking your d*ck! Come on, man, everyone knows that!brekke said:oh, forgot to say that in my reply to her pics with the guy, I sent her a pic with two girls sucking my d*ck.