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00Kevin

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Hi,

Anyone here ever encounter a girl who shows interest but doesn't give you her number? If so, how did you deal with it?


I recently met a really nice girl and after almost 2 weeks of talking to her on msn (yeah she likes to chat like crazy) I still don't have her number.

I've only asked twice and she said not yet. I haven't really shown that I care to much to have her number. I told her that I'm in no rush so I don't care. She told me that she didn't give her last boyfriend her number right away. So that makes me think she is trying to start the same thing with me.

Any suggestions on how I should handle this girl? I've already blocked her from msn for a while. I'm just sick of wasting my time chating with her on msn. chating sucks. She loves to chat and tell me everything.


I've never had a problem getting a girls number before. I think this girl is DJing me! dirty little bi-cth! :) either that or she is just an attention *****.
 

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Yeah, I was gonna impose that too. You probably wanted to long to tell you the truth, she probably just see's you as just another IM buddy. Internet > phone > real world, asap.
 

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If she liked you she would give you her number. There isn't any maybe here.
 

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Why should she give you her number? She's satisfied in knowing that she can chat with you online for weeks at a time. Face it, women who are truly interested will make themselves available to you, this one won't even let you call her.
 

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she came online again to chat... and started going on and on about something..

so I completely ignored everything she said and interupted by asking for her number

She send me an email with her cell phone and her home phone.

Basically, I just made up my mind that I wasn't going to take her seriously and next her if she continued her ways.

The fact is this girl does like me and we do get along very well. She was just being stupid.


I don't plan to call her for another week and I won't be online that much... just too damn busy.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Why should she give you her number? She's satisfied in knowing that she can chat with you online for weeks at a time. Face it, women who are truly interested will make themselves available to you, this one won't even let you call her.

What you have suggested is not true in this case. You need to develop a raport with a girl first. Sometimes it just takes longer. The important thing is to never let it go into the friends zone.
 

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Wake up and smell the coffee. She is just playing with you and having a good time at it. Or, she is married or has a BF but is using you for extra attention.

Either way, forget about her.
 

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Actaully Francisco is right in this situation. The only smart thing you did in this situation was you put her IM on block when you realized it was a no win situtation for you. Women aren't looking for guys who "take it slow" or "get to know them better". They want alpha males who take control and then walk away when they don't get what they want.

Your first mistake was chatting with her through IM. You're her IM buddy. You completely gave away all your power when you asked for her number the second time. Let's for the sake of the argument say that this girl does give you her number then what? Get ready to jump through even more hoops. How long do you think she's gonna make you wait to get her on a date? How bout a FC?
 

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Big mistake: you asked twice for the number
Absolute sign of no interest: she said no twice

If she really was interested in you she would have given you her number. I've met a lot of girls onlnie who told me in conversation that they "didnt give out their number over the net" but when I asked for some reaosn they made an exception. Why? cuz they were interested in me. Pursue her if you must but the chances of anything happening is slim to none.
 

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She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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After she refused the first time...you should have gone into complete silence for 2 seconds, then widened your eyes while looking her dead in the eye, immediately asking with complete seriousness:

Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a b!tch?

...followed by this WTF expression on your face.
 

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Did none of you read what I wrote?

I have her number now

I have her home number and her cell phone number.

I would also have to say that alot of you guys are jumping to conclusions. The fact of the matter is there are some girls who do like to take their time.

Give them a few weeks at max... but you can't just next a girl for being that way. Some fo the ones that are not *****s and are actually good for LTRs will take their time.

Persistance is important. If you like a girl then it doesn't hurt to go after her. I got both her numbers on the third try.

You see she never said "NO" she just said "not yet."

Now that she knows me more she gave me her number.

A lot of you guys Next way to damn fast.
 

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Originally posted by 00Kevin
What you have suggested is not true in this case. You need to develop a raport with a girl first. Sometimes it just takes longer. The important thing is to never let it go into the friends zone.
I'm not going to talk to a woman online for weeks in hopes to gain rapport. I she doesn't give me her number after two or three chats or emails, she drops low on my list if I even keep her on the list. If I haven't met her by the second week, there had better be a really good reason on her part and she must be hella interesting.

In your case, I bet if you had done your ignore/what's your number a bit sooner, she would have given it to you. I'm all for rapport but women or notorious for settling for online pen pal type romances, I don't have time for that.

Good job in finally getting her number by the way. :up:
 

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I'm very hesitant to give out my phone number to anyone online. You can't see the person and aren't able to get that "first impression" vibe from them that you are if they ask for your number in person.

Perhaps she was hesitant because she wasn't convinced you weren't some kind of nut case or freak.

Things sometimes work a bit differently online, and this is one of those things.
 

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
I'm not going to talk to a woman online for weeks in hopes to gain rapport. I she doesn't give me her number after two or three chats or emails, she drops low on my list if I even keep her on the list. If I haven't met her by the second week, there had better be a really good reason on her part and she must be hella interesting.

In your case, I bet if you had done your ignore/what's your number a bit sooner, she would have given it to you. I'm all for rapport but women or notorious for settling for online pen pal type romances, I don't have time for that.

Good job in finally getting her number by the way. :up:
The thing is I'm just responding to her messages.. I'm not really showing interest.

A girl who send emails and sends msn messages to you on her own accord is showing interest.

One of the questions I have.. and I think it would be a good topic for discussion is:


Do quality women (the ones that are good for LTRs) take more time to pursue?


The reason I ask this is that I've noticed that my DJ skills work really well on hot girls but they don't work on the women who are, with lack of a better word, “wholesome”.

I find that I have to tone it down a bit for the good girls.

The reason I say this is that I've noticed that the good girls don't put you through **** tests. Furthermore, the good girls are not little princesses. When that is a case you don’t have to put forth your entire game. In fact you have to tone it down a lot.
 

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