GettinMyMindRight said:
This is where we can agree to disagree. If a woman won't even give you her phone number, she is not interested. To take something from Nismo, do you think she would tell Channing Tatum that she's more comfortable getting his number instead?
You telling her "Oh okay. Here's my number. Let me know when you're free." makes you sound like a total AFC who is so lonely that you'll sit around waiting for HER to call YOU.
I get the premise...I really do. 'Well, maybe I'll get lucky and she'll actually call at some point.'
...and even if you DO get lucky and she calls, she'll be in control of the interaction between you two for as long as it lasts. Or until you take control of the frame...which is a whole different conversation.
As for the woman not being interested thing, of course there could be a million different reasons - but what I was specifically referring to was her not being interested any longer after the first date, or subsequent dates. Then, it's likely YOU dropped the ball somewhere.
As Alex Hitchens explains to us, "She said yes, when she could've said No. She made plans to be with you, when she could've just blown you off. That means it is no longer your job to make her like you. It's your job not to MESS IT UP." And if her YES all of a sudden turns into a NO, AFTER a date or two, it's quite likely on you.
She said Yes, meaning her interest is high. Then all of a sudden, after one date, she no longer wants you. Sorry...that's all the dude's fault.
I mean sure, an ex boyfriend could've come back into the picture out of the blue, etc etc etc. But I'm talking about the 98% here.
GMMR
you're a bit cutting here. Ever heard about confident persistence? this is the method you use when a girl:
a) flakes
b) does not return your call
c) does not reply to your text
d) keeps radio silence for several days
e) etc etc
And if you read about this method, you would undertand that
not all girls have high interest in you from the begining. And more often than not, these girls that seem somehow interested, are not totally into you because they keep talking or banging some ex bf or something like that.
Of course you should send to the curb a girl that displays little to no interest, but when she has medium interest, you can proceed and if you do it right, you get to bang her etc.
In the explanation you gave, you're just considering that if a girl shows hight interest from the begininig then its all good, but if she is a bit reluctant, you next her inmediately.
For example, Ive used confident persistence a few times, and it ended up well:
Girl a) met her online. Agreed to go on a date, then the day came and some hours before she text me that she could not make it blah blah.
I did not even reply. Some days later she texted me asking how I was, I replied but did not keep the conversation going. Some days later she texted me again, same thing. Then, I texted her and said that we should meet instead of texting, she agreed...I banged her 10 times and dropped her.
girl b) asked her out, she replied she had a bf. ONE DAMN year later, she texted me out of the blue. We met twice, I banged her a few times and stopped seing her. She wanted to keep seing me but I was not interested.
girl c) asked her out once, told me she was busy with her studies and had no free time (actually, she was seing her ex on and off). Three months later she texted me etc...we banged two times and then she decided to go back with her ex, AGAIN.
girl d) went on a few dates, she was a bit quiet. In three weeks she just texted me twice which I found weird and I started to think she was not interested, but she keep agreing to go on dates. I escalated in each date eventhough she did not seem that interested. On the fifth date I banged her pretty good. Then she decided to go back to her ex to whom she had been talking behind my back, ok, I got the bang. See?
Of course there have been other girls with whom I used confident persistence and I did not get anything.
Of course you dont use this method if you're needy or frustrated. But if you do not really give a ****, then it is fine.
Do not next so quickly man. I dont know if I'll bang this chick, but it is obvious that she liked me, so I'll be confident and persistent: I'll text her next thursday, I'll have a small fun conversation and I'll ask her out. If she declines, I'll say fine, contact me when you're free, and then I'll forget about her and see if she comes around in the future.