"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Girl flaked didn't propose rain check

zorg198

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Hello Guys,

Few weeks ago i was dating this chick , we went to a restaurant. then i saw a waiters there who looked like someone i worked with 10 years ago. i didn't knew if i was right but i wanted to make sure. i asked her to come she was in shock when i told her how i knew her. anyhow after i went back home i sent her on Facebook some text and we agreed to meet after i ditch this chick. we schedule to see each other on last Friday but she flaked with excuse her friends had a birthday to her boyfriend or something like that. before that few days ago we had a talk and she started to ask me some personal questions like where i from , last name and so on...( big mistake from my part)

When we talked on the phone she asked me where we are going , she insisted to know where we are going. looks like she wanted to know if its worth her.

Now- since that time i told her no problem , i will use my back up plan chick to go out instead of u. she laughed and told me i'm not possessive its ok.


Wished her good day and that's it. radio silence.


What should i do? any suggestions?

Joe.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Strange story. Sounds like you don't have much experience with women how you're acting. She doesn't want to go on a date. Move on.
 

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It dosent related to that. simply , we scheduled to gave a date on Friday. she flaked whatever reason will be . now i need to know if i should contact her in few days or should i wait for her to reach out.
 

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zorg198 said:
It dosent related to that.
Sounds related to me. Sounds like you are inexperienced.


zorg198 said:
simply , we scheduled to gave a date on Friday. she flaked whatever reason will be . now i need to know if i should contact her in few days or should i wait for her to reach out.
She didn't want to go on a date. She flaked for that reason. Let her reach out to you if she wants to go. She is the one who flaked. If she wants to go on a date she will reach out. No need to contact her when she should contact you.

Why did you ditch the girl you dated for her?
 

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Pena,

Any suggestions for the next time ?


Understood. oh well need to move on.

Joe.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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NO SURPRISE DATES FOR THE FIRST 3 MONTHS. Dude, she barely knows you - for all she knows, you could be trying to lure her back to your layer and force yourself upon her. She has the right to know where you're going to take her on these dates. Once you've built some rep with her and she trusts you more, THEN you can do the surprise dates. But until that happens, they should be dates that are simple enough to where the idea of them being surprises shouldn't even be a factor.

And then, you have the nerve to tell her you already had a back-up plan?? Duuuuuude... a woman should SENSE that you have other options, but you don't directly verbally tell her that - it makes you seem like a little boy that wants to show he still has friends when his best friend flakes on him: "You don't wanna do things MY way?? Fine, then! I have 5 hundred million other people I can hang with, so THERE!"

Geez, people - dating really isn't this hard...
 

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zorg198 said:
Pena,

Any suggestions for the next time ?


Understood. oh well need to move on.

Joe.

Having a plan is what you need to let them know. sounded kind of shady to her. Try to find girls that like to go out with you and date them. Don't put much into ones showing low interest off the bat. Telling her about backup girl is what turned her off. Poor game is what ruined it. She could have told the truth but radio silence means she doesnt want to go out. Calling her won't do any good if she doesn't want to go. See if she contacts but dont count on it. Get some news girls and try again but dont say things like that.
 

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Harry Wilmington said:
NO SURPRISE DATES FOR THE FIRST 3 MONTHS. Dude, she barely knows you - for all she knows, you could be trying to lure her back to your layer and force yourself upon her. She has the right to know where you're going to take her on these dates. Once you've built some rep with her and she trusts you more, THEN you can do the surprise dates. But until that happens, they should be dates that are simple enough to where the idea of them being surprises shouldn't even be a factor.

And then, you have the nerve to tell her you already had a back-up plan?? Duuuuuude... a woman should SENSE that you have other options, but you don't directly verbally tell her that - it makes you seem like a little boy that wants to show he still has friends when his best friend flakes on him: "You don't wanna do things MY way?? Fine, then! I have 5 hundred million other people I can hang with, so THERE!"

Geez, people - dating really isn't this hard...


So... is there any return from here or she burned ?
 

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One step at a time:

1. Find something interesting for you two to get into date-wise
2. Call her up and ask her on a date to said interesting thing and TELL HER what it is
3. See what she says - it will either be "that sounds great, let's do it" (you're in!) or "oh, I'm busy that day" with no counter-offer (you're out!)

And that's it! Really not too complicated, in fact. From there, you'll know where you stand and can move on regardless.
 

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Got it.

Any suggestions for a good interesting date?

Joe.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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