"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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xj220

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I tried searching but nothing was really turning up. Here's the situation, I met this girl and we've been emailing each other for a bit and it seems like we've hit it off really well. Unfortunately, it's about 5 days or so since she replied to my last email. Now I understand it's better to call or meet in person, but logistically it isn't possible so I want to focus on this situation since it brought some questions to mind: how long is too long before I should say something to her and what do I say when I email her again? We usually haven't gone more than a day without an email being sent for reference.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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shaunuk

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Do you know this girl in real life? If you do, all this emailing thing is pretty BS and it'd be better to talk to her in person or on the phone.

If you don't, and she's simply stopped replying the emails, I'd simply leave it. You can try sending another email but when if a girls emails just stopped I'd take the hint that the interaction is really going nowhere.
 

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I don't know her in real life but we've been making some plans to get together (I'm on leave right now so I can't see her just yet). She just hasn't replied to my last email so it's not like I've been sending a bunch say "why don't you respond." Thanks for the reply though.
 

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hm yeah, one possible reason for getting no reply could be lack of rapport in real life. In other words, she's not sure if she can really be arsed to take this further due to lack of properly knowing each other in real life.

You might get a reply eventually, I'd just hope for that. If you do, get her digits and give her a call to establish some real rapport and comfort so that she's (ideally) eager to meet up with you. Good luck bro :)
 

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Good call, I've been thinking about getting some digis and giving her a call. My plan was to open up with that I was disappointed I hadn't heard from her in awhile and then go on normally like it never happened. I'll send one more email and call it if I don't hear anything.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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shaunuk

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Whether you express disappointment about not hearing from her is up to you but personally I wouldn't. I'd probably just send something that sounds in a good mood/high spirits, as though you've just had a cool and exciting last few days, asking her how she's getting on.

If you get no reply, probably best just to leave it at that mate.
 

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well hold on a second.... Did you ask her something in the email? If not, its not necessary for her to really write anything back. You got her number? good, make something happen. If there has one thing i've learned over the years when dealing with girls online, its to undoubtedly STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT
 

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I just sent her an email based off of shaunuk's responses. The thing is, she was suggesting that we hang out and do things together which I agreed to, but told her it'd have to wait until Jan when I can get back in town. Now we'll see if she replies, if not it's her loss/problem.
 

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xj220 said:
I just sent her an email based off of shaunuk's responses. The thing is, she was suggesting that we hang out and do things together which I agreed to, but told her it'd have to wait until Jan when I can get back in town. Now we'll see if she replies, if not it's her loss/problem.
Do you really have that belief though? If she doesn't reply, it's her problem?

I think the problem is that you're RELYING on a reply from this chick.

If it wasn't a big deal to you, you wouldn't have asked us.

The #1 rule of communication with women is the ability to take it or leave it. If she doesn't feel the need to respond, so what. She missed out.

Secondly, email is a really poor way to make a connection with a woman. Email is for friends and associates.

You say you guys 'hit it off' which maybe you did; as friends. It's extremely tough to attract a woman by just talking to her through email. She can't hear your voice, she can't see how you act, she doesn't know if she can trust you. Let me repeat, there is zero to LITTLE chance of seduction when you talk to a chick through email.

Grab her phone number, give her a ring and talk to her a little bit. I understand you can't meet up with her right this moment, but if you want any attraction to spark, you're going to have to do it sooner or later, because sending emails back and forth is the way of friends. You don't want to be a friend do you?
 

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Again, thanks for the replies. The tough love, kick in the ass type replies are what I need to keep me out of pansyville. Anyways, so I sent an email asking for her number and today she replied with the digits. I was thinking about calling on the 26th because of Christmas, unless tomorrow isn't too soon.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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This is how I look at it....when I like a girl how long would I go before I respond? My is theory is simple, if somebody truly is in to someone else they will look for any opportunity to communicate with the object of their affection, be it phone, text, email, whatever.

Just my 2 cents
 

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TheNastyAfrican said:
This is how I look at it....when I like a girl how long would I go before I respond? My is theory is simple, if somebody truly is in to someone else they will look for any opportunity to communicate with the object of their affection, be it phone, text, email, whatever.

Just my 2 cents
You aRE USING LOGIC... WOMEN ARE NOT LOGICAL AND OFTEN HAVE MANY MANY OPTIONS ...
 

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DonGorgon said:
You aRE USING LOGIC... WOMEN ARE NOT LOGICAL AND OFTEN HAVE MANY MANY OPTIONS ...
Actually this is sad but true.

To OP,

Move on buddy. Nothing much you can do here. If she misses you/WAS interested in you/had an emotional connection with you, she WILL say hi again. But you cannot be needy. You have played your part, so from this point on its her loss if she doesn't put in her share of the effort in building a relationship.

The more time you waste on a girl with low IL, the more opportunities, besides her, you are likely to miss.

REMEMBER, this game is not about what YOU do, but what you get HER to do. Its all about HER investment. You need to get her to invest in you. So don't be needy, let her put in some investment, some effort to pursue you.
 

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Now that I have her number, I'll call her after Christmas and try to gauge things from there. Unfortunately, I won't be able to see her for another two weeks so now I've got to try and maintain interest over the phone. ****ing sweet.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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