Girl called me Ted Bundy at the bar

[horaholic]

That interpretation of a "real" man just sounds like something you just made up.

Learning to fit in with others and adapt to people is a very valuable skill. It's what separates popular people from lonely creeps.

Real men aren't worried about what other people think, and they are not hurt in the slightest when some bytch at the BAR calls him creepy.

If he really did come off creepy.... SO WHAT? He stood his ground, and kept in there. You are acting like thats a bad thing. Im not saying coming off creepy is a good thing, but that chick may have just been being a *****. One of the best naturals I know gets called creepy quit a bit. Then he ends up banging every one of them AND all their friends.

A couple weeks ago, I kept catching some chick glancing at me at the bar. Then... She ran up to me and asked why the fvck I was staring at her, total bytchlike. Checking her out, guilty. Staring... NO! Unfortunately, I wasnt as smooth as the OP afterwards, but I DID try. Later, I sat down next to her and asked her why she was making bullshyt accusations when she was the one who was obviously checking me out all night. Didnt go over too well, but I also didnt care. I just had all my friends (guys and girls) stare at her for the rest of the night. It was pretty funny, but it didnt get me any tail.

 

[sstype]

A couple weeks ago, I kept catching some chick glancing at me at the bar. Then... She ran up to me and asked why the fvck I was staring at her, total bytchlike. Checking her out, guilty. Staring... NO! Unfortunately, I wasnt as smooth as the OP afterwards, but I DID try. Later, I sat down next to her and asked her why she was making bullshyt accusations when she was the one who was obviously checking me out all night. Didnt go over too well, but I also didnt care. I just had all my friends (guys and girls) stare at her for the rest of the night. It was pretty funny, but it didnt get me any tail.

Honestly horaholic if any c*nt-rag wh*re gave me that kind of attitude I would have called her ass out, told her to not flatter herself and I wouldn't touch her skanky ass with a ten foot pole and walked off.

I don't care if she was deep down attracted to me. It's not cute and I'd rather go home with my **** in hand than give some c*nt the satisfaction that her sh*tty behavior is acceptable.

I remember a few weeks back I was talking to some girl at a bar and this tall strawberry blonde with her two friends moved into my space and literally shoved me out of the way. I firmly grabbed her torso and turned her around and said "excuse me am I in your way?" She replied with the b*tchiest tone "Not anymore you're not" I called here a f*cking c*nt in front of her friends and turned back to talk to my girl. Her and her friends didn't say sh*t back to me, in fact the b*tch and her friends had the courtesy to say excuse me in the nicest way possible when they walked past me again.

No way in hell was I going to try and "game" her like most guys would have done, and yeah she was a very attractive woman but disrespect me and she can be Miss Universe for all I care, im chewing her ass out.
The most important thing to me is respecting myself by not letting others disrespect me, I'm not going to waste my time with women that act like spoiled little ch*ldren because no one has the balls to put them in their place.

Seriously guys, stop trying to play verbal gymnastics with these f*cking b*tches in the hope that you will uncover some sweet little nympho. They are rotten to the core and should be treated as such. I'm all for us guys getting laid and having fun, but we should demand a little respect along the way don't you think?

 

[Yo'Mama]

Honestly horaholic if any c*nt-rag wh*re gave me that kind of attitude I would have called her ass out, told her how to not flatter herself and I wouldn't touch her skanky ass with a ten foot pole and walked off.

I don't care if she was deep down attracted to me. It's not cute and I'd rather go home with my **** in hand than give some c*nt like the satisfaction that her sh*tty behavior is acceptable.

I remember a few weeks back I was talking to some girl at a bar and this tall strawberry blonde with her two friends moved into my space and literally shoved me out of the way. I firmly grabbed her torso and turned her around and said "excuse me am I in your way?" She replied with the b*tchiest tone "Not anymore you're not" I called here a f*cking c*nt in front of her friends and turned back to talk to my girl. Her and her friends didn't say sh*t back to me, in fact the b*tch and her friends had the courtesy to say excuse me in the nicest way possible when they walked past me again.

No way in hell was I going to try and "game" her like most guys would have done, and yeah she was a very attractive woman but disrespect me and she can be Miss Universe for all I care, im chewing her ass out.
The most important thing to me is respecting myself by not letting others disrespect me, I'm not going to waste my time with women that act like spoiled little ch*ldren because no one has the balls to put them in their place.

Seriously guys, stop trying to play verbal gymnastics with these f*cking b*tches in the hope that you will uncover some sweet little nympho. They are rotten to the core and should be treated as such. I'm all for us guys getting laid and having fun, but we should demand a little respect along the way don't you think?

Fvcking A!!! And this is the issue I have with most of the posters on here who think such behaviour should be met with a witty but friendly quip in reply. No!!!! Do what sstype did and call them a cvnt. Really, props for this man. The truth is if a girl pulled this sh*t on me and I could get away with it, I would knock her ass out.

 

[Jariel]

I just think a lot of PUAs need to do some self reflection. It's great having the confidence to approach a bunch of chicks like that and I give him props, but is that confidence based on delusion? For most PUAs it is.

Now a lot of you are jumping to the conclusion that the chick was in the wrong, but for one, it was just a playful insult. It wasn't as if she called his mom a slvt or anything. Secondly, he just went over and interrupted them. Why should they pander to him? Besides, he was probably one of many overconfident guys who approached them that night and they're probably annoyed with it.

As for this "not caring what others think" attitude, there's being carefree and cool, but then there's being delusional and thinking you're right about everything and it's everyone else that is wrong. The latter won't get you very far at all.

 

[pipe007]

Lol jariel thas low class advice comming from a site that encourages approaching... i apptoach hundreds of girls .. i date a lot only cuz i approach... yes i am over optimistic almost delusional.. but it works... we are free tk choose our beliefs... but whats reality anyway? If i had ur beliefs i wouldny try ... it would be a sad boring life

 

[pipe007]

Low class advice... im very dissapointed.

 

[oxford comma]

I just think a lot of PUAs need to do some self reflection. It's great having the confidence to approach a bunch of chicks like that and I give him props, but is that confidence based on delusion? For most PUAs it is.

Now a lot of you are jumping to the conclusion that the chick was in the wrong, but for one, it was just a playful insult. It wasn't as if she called his mom a slvt or anything. Secondly, he just went over and interrupted them. Why should they pander to him? Besides, he was probably one of many overconfident guys who approached them that night and they're probably annoyed with it.

As for this "not caring what others think" attitude, there's being carefree and cool, but then there's being delusional and thinking you're right about everything and it's everyone else that is wrong. The latter won't get you very far at all.

what site do you think youre posting on? ohhh he INTERRUPTED THEM??? OMGZ!!!! he cant control how girls can react to him all he can control is whether or not he will approach and do his best with what hes got. its called taking a chance, and you seem to be advocating against it.

 

[oxford comma]

i definitely dont think what the girl said was all that bad though. its all about how she said it, she might have been busting your balls for a laugh and theres nothing wrong with that. its just a **** test. i wouldve said "actually, im more like al bundy".

 

[Jariel]

If i had ur beliefs i wouldny try ... it would be a sad boring life

I get laid a lot and I have women approach me, chase me, text/email me all the time. I can hook up with a HB6-8 any night I choose and I even get the odd HB9 - models, fitness instructors, dancers etc. I never cold approach.

The reason I can do this is because I've listened to advice, criticism, calibrated my game based on how people react to me and I have used all this to improve myself and become a man of value rather than a man of delusion. That's my point.

This guy could look at this situation (like many of you are) and accuse the girls of being b!tches and whine how hard done to he is, or he could take a step back and ask himself why he got such a reaction and why he didn't get some that night.

The fact that she called him out on his bullsh!t tells me he was acting full of himself, in which case he would do well from learning a bit of charisma and acting a touch more modest.

what site do you think youre posting on? ohhh he INTERRUPTED THEM??? OMGZ!!!! he cant control how girls can react to him all he can control is whether or not he will approach and do his best with what hes got. its called taking a chance, and you seem to be advocating against it.

Well this board is split on this issue. Some believe that PUA tactics and cold approaching are the way to go, others believe in the self improvement route and get those chicks to chase you.

I have never been an advocate of cold approaching. It seems creepy and desperate just lurking around alone and approaching women. If a woman is giving you signals across the room, eye contact, a smile etc, then by all means get over there. Otherwise, you have no right to complain if you're rejected or ignored.

 

[vatoloco]

Law 39

Stir up Waters to Catch Fish

Anger and emotion are strategically counterproductive. You must always stay calm and objective. But if you can make your enemies angry while staying calm yourself, you gain a decided advantage. Put your enemies off-balance: Find the chink in their vanity through which you can rattle them and you hold the strings.

'sides, it's a fem-centric world. Yell at the wrong broad and you're gonna find yourself kicked out of a club or, worst case scenario, in jail being accused of verbal assault.

But you guys go ahead and keep yelling and cursing at girls.

"Always be in control of your emotions..."​

 

[Mike32ct]

I understand what you're saying Jariel. I like 99% of your game advice, and there is no question that you've made very significant improvements to your game. But you are a hot guy (no homo), so you will be in a different reality than most guys.

Cold approaching is far from ideal. I'll be the first to admit it. Actually, it kind of sucks. But for a guy who isn't hot, I don't know what else can be done.

IME, women will NOT give IOIs or approach invitations unless you are VERY good looking. They won't approach you unless you're hot (or have some status thing going like bartender or disc jockey).

But your point is well taken about a guy not being too full of himself.

I think you have to "test the waters" when you cold approach and be prepared to eject if you aren't wanted. Being confident should never mean being pushy. I don't yell "HEY GUYS" at the top of my lungs like PUAs suggest as an opener LOL. That is annoying and rude.

Lastly, I don't know the OPs approach history, so maybe this was a fluke and she was a b@tch. It depends how his other approaches went.

 

[vatoloco]

i wouldve said "actually, im more like al bundy".

Lulz were had. +1

Edit:

IME, women will NOT give IOIs or approach invitations unless you are VERY good looking. They won't approach you unless you're hot (or have some status thing going like bartender or disc jockey).

True. But also they can't hide the simplest IOI of them all: the smile. If you smile at a girl and and she finds you physically attractive, she will smile back. It's physically-programmed into ourselves.

And those are the ones to cold-approach.

 

[oxford comma]

I get laid a lot and I have women approach me, chase me, text/email me all the time. I can hook up with a HB6-8 any night I choose and I even get the odd HB9 - models, fitness instructors, dancers etc. I never cold approach.

The reason I can do this is because I've listened to advice, criticism, calibrated my game based on how people react to me and I have used all this to improve myself and become a man of value rather than a man of delusion. That's my point.

This guy could look at this situation (like many of you are) and accuse the girls of being b!tches and whine how hard done to he is, or he could take a step back and ask himself why he got such a reaction and why he didn't get some that night.

The fact that she called him out on his bullsh!t tells me he was acting full of himself, in which case he would do well from learning a bit of charisma and acting a touch more modest.




Well this board is split on this issue. Some believe that PUA tactics and cold approaching are the way to go, others believe in the self improvement route and get those chicks to chase you.

I have never been an advocate of cold approaching. It seems creepy and desperate just lurking around alone and approaching women. If a woman is giving you signals across the room, eye contact, a smile etc, then by all means get over there. Otherwise, you have no right to complain if you're rejected or ignored.

can you explain what you mean by getting chics to chase you? I've heard that said on this board a lot and I don't get it at all.

 

[Gray The Prince]

Al Bundy was alpha as fuk. If she would've called you Al Bundy instead of Ted, you woulda had her in bed before the night was over with.

 

[Mike32ct]

Al Bundy was alpha. He did not give a F .

His son Bud Bundy cracked me up too. He was the tryhard beta always looking for tricks to score lol.

 

[Jariel]

I think he means improving yourself to the point where women will actively pursue you instead of the other way round. For some this might mean working on their physical appearance (I firmly believe anyone ft or over has the potential to be in the elite band of physical attractiveness if they dedicate enough time to their body). For others it will mean focusing on your career aspirations, passions and finances.

It's about doing what it takes to build a life so awesome, women can't help but take notice.

Exactly! I came to this board at an all time low in my life. No social skills, serious anxiety disorder and panic attacks, severe low self esteem, I was skinny and weak, a pushover, my image was safe and a bit geeky, but bit by bit I have examined all my flaws and worked on improving them. I've listened to what people have said to me, even those who insulted or rejected me. Actually the rejections and insults have been my biggest source of motivation overall and I've used the pain of those to drive me.

There came a point where I became one of those guys that women fantasize about and ogle at. I developed conversation (and listening) skills, charisma and confidence so I could talk to women and they'd feel a bond with me.

It's hard work, but it got me to where I want to be. Whereas I would never be this same person had I convinced myself I was already perfect and that other people were the problem.

I understand what you're saying Jariel. I like 99% of your game advice, and there is no question that you've made very significant improvements to your game. But you are a hot guy (no homo), so you will be in a different reality than most guys.

Well, firstly thanks for the compliment, but I haven't always been good looking. I put a lot of work into my image, my grooming and my body. I believe that most guys have the potential to be hot. Granted, I have decent features and I'm tall, but women didn't behave this way towards me until I got myself in shape and started dressing well.

Women will drool over most guys with a sixpack, tan and muscles, even if he's not the best looking guy in the face.

 

[Mike32ct]

Plenty of times I've wanted to put mean b@tchy girls in their place when I'm out. However, I bite my tounge and move on for the following:

1. I'm too old for petty p$ssing matches.

2. I will be the bad guy because I'm the guy. Her girlfriends and white knight Captain guy friends will gang up on me. I'll be the one to get kicked out because the Captain bouncer is only there to get laid, so he'll side with her too.

So while they might deserve to be put in their place, I usually just walk away. A genuine alpha bad boy can pull it off successfully, but if a nice guy like me tries to put a b@tchy girl in her place in a public venue, he'll be eaten alive.

 

[Mike32ct]

Good post Jariel.

Working hard to maximize your looks is worthwhile investment.

The hotter you are, the nicer the girls are lol.

 

[floydb25]

The hotter you are, the nicer the girls are lol.

Not necessarily. They might be nice to you initially - when they're trying to win you over, and make you feel special. Once they become comfortable, know they have you, or lose interest altogether - there goes the niceness, 'cause it was never real to begin with. Once their infatuation wears off - they're going to treat you the same way they treat everyone else. A ***** will always be a ***** - regardless of her attraction towards you. Your turn is always right around the corner. You aren't special.

That's why I go after girls who are nice to everybody - not just those they are trying to impress, look up to, or fit in with. Just say no to snobby *****es. The charade never lasts long, because they can't pretend to be something they're not (ie, nice, decent, quality girls).

 

[Robert28]

I'm still waiting to hear if this girl was fat and ugly or hot?