"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Girl at work

Clownpaint

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I've just started a job as a cleaner at a Garden Centre and tonight I was working with a girl for an hour in one part of the store.

I don't want a relationship with this girl, and I'd probably never see her outside of the workplace but I just wanna be able to talk to her comfortably, when I work.

I didn't say one word tonight apart form when I needed something. She's very bubbly and extrovert and I just ain't.

I just wanna like break the ice and I have few ideas but I don't want her to be like "Whatever" because I approached it wrong as I have to work with her on some days.

I'm 16 (and look a bit younger than that) and she's 17 and she fancies herself as a bit of a rude girl; a bit of a joker.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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AC/DC

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Just be nice to her, smile once in a while.

Make a joke or two, break the ice that way. There really is no other way...

Have fun!:)
 

Clownpaint

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I see what you're saying but I'm not someone who can just bang in with a joke.

Should I just try and keep it simple and ask her things like how long she's worked there and stuff?
 

Clownpaint

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Originally posted by The_Shezzler
Just treat her as any other girl/person for that matter.

Its just talking!!!

Talk, Listen - repeat....

There is no TRY!!! - Yoda

Dont TRY to be funny, Dont TRY to be anyone else - just be yourself, Be A Man and let it flow

If you have no fear...It helps

Sarge On...
Thanks, Shezz. :D
 

08aisaac

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Ha I know what you mean. I have somewhat sort of a dark looking-ness about me. I look like the guy who you wouldn't want to pick a fight with. lol. So just start talking to her. But I don't know I have never had a job and I don't know what it would be like. lol
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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