"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Girl acting weird after sex?

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Hey guys.
I met this girl through a friend and spoke to her for a while on MSN. Long story short I went out with her twice, had sex with her on the 2nd date, everything was fine we kissed at the end and I thought she might be a keeper. Well I messaged her a couple of days after asking how she was, got no reply, messaged her about 4 days after that to see what she was doing that night (was going to see if she wanted to do anything), no reply. Another thing is is that she hasnt come on MSN since we had sex which is pretty strange because she was pretty much on there whenever I signed into MSN. Its like shes disapeared off the face of the planet.

Now, im actually laughing at the situation because it seems like there are two possible scenarios. Number 1- Shes playing some stupid sort of game which is absolutely hilarious. Number 2- Shes changed her mind and not interested, which is fine except some sort of a message subtley hinting it would have been nice. And another thing I know shes not dead (rofl) coz shes been using her facebook.

Im just gonna leave it, however its made me a little angry and curious about whats happened but ill just have to go tune someone else to help get my mind off her. I just had to have a little rant and also see what you guys think about the situation.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Likely Buyer's Remorse has kicked in.

e.g she could be talking about you to her best friend and was told "WTF were you thinking?"
 

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Summit said:
Hey guys.
I met this girl through a friend and spoke to her for a while on MSN. Long story short I went out with her twice, had sex with her on the 2nd date, everything was fine we kissed at the end and I thought she might be a keeper. Well I messaged her a couple of days after asking how she was, got no reply, messaged her about 4 days after that to see what she was doing that night (was going to see if she wanted to do anything), no reply. Another thing is is that she hasnt come on MSN since we had sex which is pretty strange because she was pretty much on there whenever I signed into MSN. Its like shes disapeared off the face of the planet.

Im just gonna leave it, however its made me a little angry and curious about whats happened but ill just have to go tune someone else to help get my mind off her. I just had to have a little rant and also see what you guys think about the situation.
You viewed her as a keeper because she slept with you on a second date? I hate to see what you would do on a third date...a hand in marriage?

Sounds like she saw it as a ONS. She got her cherry popped and doesn't seem to need you anymore IMHO.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
You viewed her as a keeper because she slept with you on a second date? I hate to see what you would do on a third date...a hand in marriage?

Sounds like she saw it as a ONS. She got her cherry popped and doesn't seem to need you anymore IMHO.
I never said I viewed her as a keeper because she slept with me lol. I viewed her as a potential keeper because she was nice, funny and she had other qualities that I viewed as attractive.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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There could be a number of reasons of why she never called you back. Maybe she has a boyfriend. Maybe her x boyfriend came back in the picture. Maybe she didn't enjoy the sex. Maybe your d1ck was 2 big.

But one thing is for sure her interest level in you is not high. If it was she would not do this. Would she do this to brad pitt? Your best bet is too cut her loose even if she does call you back. Its not worth the hassle. Look at it this way at least you knocked it out of the ballpark.
 

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Summit said:
lookyoung said:
Your best bet is too cut her loose even if she does call you back.
Now why would I go and do that. Theres still some fun to be had.
I agree.. there is alot of extreme debuachery you can have with her. Of course don't ever make the mistake again of thinking shes the one.. She is the one you gonna tape fvcking at your pad, shes the one you gonna get to do a FFM threesome with you and maybe if you are evil enough.. shes one you can pimp out. haha
 

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Another possibilities is that since you waited 4 days and never called she saw it as a ONS, Guys get this idea that they should wait to call after sex but you have already one there is no reason to wait. Call the next day and she how shes doing don't set any plans just see whats up
 

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frisco said:
Another possibilities is that since you waited 4 days and never called she saw it as a ONS, Guys get this idea that they should wait to call after sex but you have already one there is no reason to wait. Call the next day and she how shes doing don't set any plans just see whats up
Yer but the thing is I honestly was busy and I really couldnt have been bothered ringing her until i wanted to do something again with her. I'd much rather her get to know me in person than by on the phone/MSN/SMS.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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well maybe she didnt enjoy sex with you
maybe she enjoyed it too much and thought it would be unchristian
maybe there was something you did wrong
btw. im sure she just blocked you on msn because if you block someone in msn you are invisible and offline to him/her ;)

You cant force the girl to want to keep a relationship but if you want you can hide your cellphone number and call her to make sure she doesnt want you...

either way im sorry but i think she doesnt want anything from you.
I hope for you im wrong but it seems so dude ;)
 

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Summit said:
Yer but the thing is I honestly was busy and I really couldnt have been bothered ringing her until i wanted to do something again with her. I'd much rather her get to know me in person than by on the phone/MSN/SMS.

Baka! You always call the day after, just for a minute or two, say how you ejoyed her company and set up another meet. When you didn't call for 4 days it sent the signal that either you wanted a ONS or you wasn't that into her.

you weren't that busy to make a 3-5 min phone call.
 

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im sure she just blocked you on msn because if you block someone in msn you are invisible and offline to him/her.
She has blocked me but im still on her list (you can check this through MSN options) haha. Im heeps confused, its like shes angry at me. Im tending to believe that she thinks I used her just for sex.
 
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Number 2- Shes changed her mind and not interested, which is fine except some sort of a message subtley hinting it would have been nice. And another thing I know shes not dead (rofl) coz shes been using her facebook.

It's possible that is her message. It's so incredibly lame and cowardly, but some girls will tell you they are no longer interested by not calling or messaging you ever again.

What else would you expect from a b!tch?
 

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maybe you weren't good at bed buddy. Ever consider that as number 3?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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