"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Gifts...

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davester88

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Hey guys, heres my problem. I got a girl a present, but she didnt get me one because she wasnt expecting one from me. Do you think I should still give it to her. We're friends, but I've avoided hanging out with her alot on purpose just so I dont get stuck in the friendship zone. We were gonna meet up tommorow. She was going to get me a gift, but she was flat broke because she bought for all her girl friends.

I didnt get her anything big, just some shower gel things but I just wanted to get your guys input. She has shown some interest, like heavy eye contact, etc.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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VIVAlasVEGASBaby

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Its up to you.

I personally would just give to her because

A) i have no use for shower gel that smells like mango
B) it wouldn't be worth my time to return it and get the $12 back

after all it is the season of giving :rolleyes:

Make your own decision
 
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Originally posted by davester88
We're friends, but I've avoided hanging out with her alot on purpose just so I dont get stuck in the friendship zone.
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Francisco d'Anconia

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I've gotta remember to make a left when I come into the forum, otherwise I end up in the middle of sh1t like this...:rolleyes:
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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sorry guys, I meant I'm friends with her, but not great friends to avoid being put in the friendship zone.
 
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Re: Re: Gifts...

Originally posted by Pfeile
"Gift" is German for "poison". Go figure lol...
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Humorous? Yes :p

Suprising? No :(
 
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Re: Re: Re: Gifts...

Originally posted by Vincent
Humorous? Yes :p

Suprising? No :(
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I don't get you... why is that not surprising? :confused:
 
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u need to read the bible.......

all i can say is da u acting desperate...

Kill that desperation! by pook....
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16926

How do I get out of the "friend zone"?

Now this doesn't always work, but this is the only way you are going to be able to do it - STOP treating her like she's just a friend, however DON'T stop TALKING to her like she's a friend. Start requesting more often that the two of you spend alone time together. If you have not gotten her number, get it. And start holding her hand, start kissing, start doing the things that you would do with a woman that you have just met that DIDN'T start off as just a friend.

afc faq
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56520
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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