"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Gifts...

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davester88

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Hey guys, heres my problem. I got a girl a present, but she didnt get me one because she wasnt expecting one from me. Do you think I should still give it to her. We're friends, but I've avoided hanging out with her alot on purpose just so I dont get stuck in the friendship zone. We were gonna meet up tommorow. She was going to get me a gift, but she was flat broke because she bought for all her girl friends.

I didnt get her anything big, just some shower gel things but I just wanted to get your guys input. She has shown some interest, like heavy eye contact, etc.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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VIVAlasVEGASBaby

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Its up to you.

I personally would just give to her because

A) i have no use for shower gel that smells like mango
B) it wouldn't be worth my time to return it and get the $12 back

after all it is the season of giving :rolleyes:

Make your own decision
 
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Originally posted by davester88
We're friends, but I've avoided hanging out with her alot on purpose just so I dont get stuck in the friendship zone.
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Francisco d'Anconia

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I've gotta remember to make a left when I come into the forum, otherwise I end up in the middle of sh1t like this...:rolleyes:
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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sorry guys, I meant I'm friends with her, but not great friends to avoid being put in the friendship zone.
 
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Re: Re: Gifts...

Originally posted by Pfeile
"Gift" is German for "poison". Go figure lol...
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Humorous? Yes :p

Suprising? No :(
 
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Re: Re: Re: Gifts...

Originally posted by Vincent
Humorous? Yes :p

Suprising? No :(
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I don't get you... why is that not surprising? :confused:
 
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u need to read the bible.......

all i can say is da u acting desperate...

Kill that desperation! by pook....
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16926

How do I get out of the "friend zone"?

Now this doesn't always work, but this is the only way you are going to be able to do it - STOP treating her like she's just a friend, however DON'T stop TALKING to her like she's a friend. Start requesting more often that the two of you spend alone time together. If you have not gotten her number, get it. And start holding her hand, start kissing, start doing the things that you would do with a woman that you have just met that DIDN'T start off as just a friend.

afc faq
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56520
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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