"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

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Gift and interpretation help!

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I need some help with understand some stuff and also some help suggesting gifts...

Ok earlier this fall I met this girl at a friends party, we really hit it of and that evening we went out dancing... We danced and danced the whole night ,we were almost melded into eachother and so into eachother. But she had a BF so we couldn't take it further...

Now I KNOW she likes me cause she talked about me with her friends and she flat out told me she really liked me and I charmed her to hell... Now she also knows I see other girls and have lots of girl friends etc but she also knows I like her... I don't supplicate her or anything though. Many times over the fall she has asked me out for evening/nightly walks, walking around talking etc.

Now people might think friendzone, maybe, maybe not. I don't care, never stopped me before...

She even asked me to go to some conserts with her, which I did. We talk some on MSN too, she IM me all the time trying to find out what i'm doing, etc. I answer her once in a while. Everytime we meet too we flirt alot, and she also blushes alot, looks down etc.

Even though I know she likes me, I've sort of ignored the question of her IL or not..... I don't care, I'm taking this as a lesson to how to interpret female behavior.

This is where the gift thing comes inn..

The day before I went home for christmas she told me she had a christmas presant for me, which I went to fetch before leaving. I timed it really good cause her BF was there then and I could see her face go all *ooops* when she handed me the gift. She sort of hid behind the door when talking to me and hugging me goodbye etc so the BF couldn't see us (Btw he is a TOTAL GEEK, he sits at the computer 50+% of the time he is at her place...)..

Now a gift might not mean anything, but when I opened it christmas eve and found a really cute red silkboxer I really started to wonder...

Now I'm gonna buy her something back so I need some advice... I like her, but I don't really desire her, ok abit since she has a BF and is so strange in behavior...

So gifttips and interpretation of this girl would be appreciated!


Sincerely
an apparent marsman :p
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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Get her a nice gift certificate to Victoria's Secret. Then go shopping with her.
 
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We don't have VS in my country, nothing really close either....

Some more tips would be nice, and some interpretation of her behavior too....


Thx for your reply though!
 
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Why haven't you f-closed her already since you don't desire her? If you don't consider a relationship w/ her, then why buy a gift? She is definately not lrt material imo. If you want more than a fvk from her, then buy a gift probably won't hurt since her IL seems pretty high. As for what kind of gifts, i am not an expert at that.
 

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Because of the BF thing... First of all I'm not particularely found of fvcking up relationships but second of all she holds back due to the BF. She is prinicple faithful...

I AM going to get her a gift cause even though if we never have sex or end up somehow I'll have her as a friend.. She is a great dancer, she has some really pretty friends and she goes to one of the parts of my uni so I can get invited to their private parties. and it's social rapport good...

Any pretty girl I get to know that I don't fvck I keep as a friend or simular.

Another thing is I generally want to fvck any girl I find attractive and sexy and if somehow they put up a challenge like this one does it makes me want to "win"! So you can say that I want to fvck her, I just don't desire or think about her.
 
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She seems to show high IL but what exactly todo I think others are better equiped to tell you... Especially regarding the giftpart....
 
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Ye I think so too, but I'm not sure how to handle it or what to get her...

Maybe my question/thread is just dumb/strange since so few have bothered to reply.. I wish Big Pappy, MVPlaya or someone could help out, from what I've seen they and several others always give really good advice!
 
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Nah but it's abit out of my area of expertize (gifts etc)....

I have no idea why noone is answering you...
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

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I'm so sorry for nagging but I have 2-3 days left finding the right gift(s) and finding out how to deal with this girl...

So please help me.
 
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Dude mellow the f*ck out.

How wrong can you go with this. Buy her whatever you're buying your sister this year. You won't succeed or fail on the strength of the girft you buy.

Oh and good luck.
 
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Ye you are right... I'll just buy something nice, she collects some stuff I'll buy that, maybe massageoil whatever....



I'm still wondering if she's REALLY interested though or not and what would be a good way to get the BF out of the picture...
 
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