"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DJinTraining06

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I've mentioned this before a few weeks ago. My gf constatly says "why do u know that?" whenever we go out and i say some sort of info that i know. It's not even that obsure usually, soemtimes its just normal stuff that isnt weird to know at all.
And it annoys the hell out of me, cuz everybody knows wat they know, why is that weird? She says boring **** to me all the time, should i just start doin it back to her and make her feel stupid? At first it was cute, but last night i said something totally normal, and she said "why do u know that" like i was so weird. And i told her, "why shouldn't i know that, i aint apoligiizng for knowing sh*t. I forgot i'm supposed to pretend im ignorant when im with u"

And she says "why r u going out with me then, i wont ask u anything anymore."

Can u believe this? I ended up having to apoligize. I love how they turn it around. There was another thing too last night. We were at a restaurant and there was a picture of a map from the 1700's on the wall over our table. I looked at it for a sec to try and figure out where ny was. She says sarcastically "u studying ur history map" As if it was dorky, (cuz she knows i like history)

Should i drop this girl? I really like her normally but then she does stuff like this which i find disrespecful and idiotic. What should i do dump her, or jsut try to see if i can put my foot down and see if she changes first?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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gherald

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in the first place why did yu apologize?

you cant change her ways that way...just say what you feel and ofcourse she'll feel bad at first...but stand on your ground...
 

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OK first of all, hardly EVER apologize unless you really did something horrible like accidentally killing one of her cats in the microwave ;)

Secondly, you need to become more of a challenge for this girl. Sounds like she wears the daddy pants. Dude, she's living in your reality and not the other way around. If you don't feel bad about something you did, DO NOT APOLOGIZE. Even if you do feel bad (see cat example), you probably shouldn't. Instead of apologizing, say something like "What is it about what I did that pi$$es you off so much?" and when she explains herself say "OK, I understand." Notice, you aren't saying "I'm sorry", but you are demonstrating that you value her opinion.

Regarding the history map - she was giving you some c&f it sounds. I would have said exactly what I was doing with a gleem of charisma in my eye, "I'm studying that map trying to figure out where NY is (you ignorant b1tch)"

If she says "That's dumb" or implies that it's stupid, DUMP THE B1TCH. No girl on earth should ever think learning or studying or discovering is dumb. Those are MASCULINE characteristics. She should be wet in her little panties that you are curious.
 

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I've never known a girl that didnt enjoy hearing little tid bits of information. I spit them out all the tiem and they love them. For instance, all penguins are left handed
 

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How about confronting her with this?

Next time you are alone, and she says that stupid sh!t, ask her with a serious face what is the matter with her, and if she plays dumb ("I don't know what you are talking about..you wierdo..") then tell her, either you stop with this stupid crap of trying to insult me (or what ever it makes you feel) or just stop dating me, b/c I've had it with you.

Because if it's that serious that you brought it up to a forum, I'm guessing you are done playing around.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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DJinTraining06 said:
...Should i drop this girl? I really like her normally but then she does stuff like this which i find disrespecful and idiotic. What should i do dump her, or jsut try to see if i can put my foot down and see if she changes first?
What did you see in this girl to start dating her? What was it about her personality that attracted you?
 

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If she's lacking class, put it in her a$$... see where I'm going with this? :D


LOL!


If she's not being right, give her a pillow to bite. ;)
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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lmao. those are hillarious.

if she talkin s h i t, fcuk her like a b it ch


hmm sounds stupid but ok ha
 

TheLadiesMan

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If she's being a wh0re, slip it in her backdoor! :) .. you know what I'm saying?

If she's got no soul, put it in her booty hole! :D
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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bigjohnson

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DJinTraining06 said:
.... I ended up having to apoligize. ....
Aaaaand now you know why she was doing it. Right? You see, right? She PICKED A FIGHT then MADE you say sorry. Oh wow dude. Ah well,, don't feel too bad - most guys do that once or twice, some never learn. Your mission; make this your once.
 

DJinTraining06

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The_Wolf said:
How about confronting her with this?

Next time you are alone, and she says that stupid sh!t, ask her with a serious face what is the matter with her, and if she plays dumb ("I don't know what you are talking about..you wierdo..") then tell her, either you stop with this stupid crap of trying to insult me (or what ever it makes you feel) or just stop dating me, b/c I've had it with you.

Because if it's that serious that you brought it up to a forum, I'm guessing you are done playing around.

i confronted her on the phone this morning, and she got all upset wit me,

"i thought u were over this already. I dunno, if we cant get over little things like this then i dunno."

so i say, i dont mean to make a big deal out of it, i just feel like i cant say anythin without u sayin that, u say it almost every time we hang out at least once.

so shes like "ok i wont ever say, "why do u know that", ever again. I didnt know it offends u.

im like "thats not the point here. its funny when i say soemthign really obscure. I dont mind u sayin it then. but if i mention things that r totally mainstream and normal and ur still sayin that, well then thats not normal, it bothers me cuz wat the hell is "cool" to talk about.

then i ended up apoloiging again like an idiot.

next time i aint apoligizng, i just f'd it up this time.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
What did you see in this girl to start dating her? What was it about her personality that attracted you?
Well she seemed alot smarter when i first met her. And she is smart dont get me wrong, but now thats shes comfortable with me, she always says "why do u know that" Which is something i never hear anybody say. Who says that?
ive heard people use that expression on each other a few times but only when its somethin so obscure. I'll say normal things and she says that. It riles me up idont know why. Its like the ignorance of it drives me nuts. lol

But i like her cuz shes easygoing, we have alot in common, and were just alot alike in the way we think and wat we liek to do. But now im seeing a different side. I am not dumping her, cuz i really got feelings for her, but im sticvking to this attitude. i aint giving in. im gonna mention as many facts as i want and not let her make me seem weird. if that continues, im sayin goodbye. Cuz i am not a dumb guy, i know some guys who spew out facts like idiots. I am very conscious of not being obnoxisous and hogging convos and saying dorky things. the stuff i say is usually related to the conversaton and minor, not showing off. so it really doesnt apply to me when she says that.
 

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Hey, I understand you man, but take it easy. You have a good way of thinking. Don't let this dumb little sentence ruin your relationship, but still, don't let it slide if it bothers you that much. (and it does sound annoying).

Let us know how it develops...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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