"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Credos

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So heres my latest story, I hooked up with a HB 8.5, though she was waaaaaaaaaaay outta my league. So I couldn't help myself but try to seduce her, and guess what, I got the girl. So she's sleeping over once and a while, it all start out nice. She's smart, funny, laughs at the people I hate (damn I love that about her :p laughing right in their face). She says she's not a virgin, though some akward stories have come up... Anyway so we're 2 months further, and the only sex I've had is a j*rkoff, and impatient (though considering two months no real sex might even be VERY patient ;)) as I am I spoke to her about the fact that I wanted to fvck her.

All the sudden she starts yapping about her old relationship, thrustcrap, how she hasen't been "herself" all these years but somebody she's not, that she doesn't wanna lose me and that she fears she's pushing me away... We're 3 months togheter now, she's given me b-jobs, but doesn't want me to go down on her (Not that I'm complaining on this part :whistle:), we haven't even gotten beyond this stage, but everytime I lie next to her and not doing her is driving me Insane... We're ending up in a lot of fights lately, which is driving us apart, but everytime I talk to her about how much it irritates me that we haven't done it, she start crying and becoming emotional and stuff...

What should I do?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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timorozco

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told your emotions in and play the game man. let the topic slide away for a while. you have to give her the impression it's not about the sex, it's about feeling more connected to her. play it her way and tell her what she wants to hear, not be blunt. bring it up not as a discussion of sex, which would put her guard up, but as a discussion of feeling connected and being together, which will lower her guard.
 

Hoogie

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Another option might be to fcuk it (not literally of course - jokes)

Your putting her on a pedestal and its not letting you think straight. Humans are sexual beings and its natural for you to want to fcuk her... if she doesnt want to thats her right.. but if you cant stand it.. move on... dont treat her like a queen

If its causing fights also and shes still not giving up the goods then who knows... she might hold out for a lot longer than you think. Deep down she'll think your an AFC if you hang around AND she'll waste your time.

besides... you KNOW you can pick up 8.5's now .... y not see how high you can go ;)

but seriously... i dont like to usually give opinions on this sh!t cause it depends on where YOUR wanting to go and what YOU want to do... i say fcuk the DJ way of thinking for these situations SOMETIMES... make your own rules. just putting another option out there for you.
 

ManiacJack

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Ah, if you want to do it with her, build up the sexual tension mate. It's very important... Anticipation also excites girls quite a lot... Here's a David DeAngelo trick... When you are with her, stand up and hug her, and then act as though you are about to lay her right there and then. Then let go, sit back down and say, "I only wanted to hug you..." Do it again after that, and by the third time she will probably be excited enough to do it anyway.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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