"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

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Gf consumes all my weekend time!

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Its not as afc as t sounds (at least I hope not)

Usually at the weekend, I just relax and don't do a whole lot (unless i plan a trip somewhere). I do some activities during the week, yoga, go to the gym, will be playing soccer soon as well.

So I meet my gf once during the week and thats grand. On Fridays though she stays over and well spends the entire weekend at my place. This ends up with me spending all the day time with her on Saturdays and Sundays. I still go out with my friends on Friday or Saturday night. She goes out with hers and sometimes I go out with hers or she goes out with mine.

But because she stays over for the weekend, I have no time to myself over the weekend. I might wish to spend a few hours just relaxing by myself in front of the tv. I can't exactly say "I don't want to hang out with you for a few hours, I want to be by myself"

She does treat me very well, has shown strong IL from the beginning. She cooks for me and is good in bed as well as suggesting new ideas :)

I'm thinking of taking up a weekend hobby just to keep some daytime to myself. Any ideas?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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you're screwed.

sounds like she is needy and that you've become the center of her universe.

its funny how many guys want some hot chic to be all over them all the time, but be careful what you ask for, because when you can't get a moment to yourself a good thing becomes very frustrasting very quickly.
 

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What's wrong with getting together during the week?
 

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i see what you're getting at joekerr31. She definetly is a bit needy and is into me more than I am into her.

On the other hand, she does know a fair few people in the area and is a very positive sociable person. She has a small self-esteem issue about her weight (apparently by Thai standards she is fat) However, its not like a touchy issue as I'm able to joke and say stuff like "oh you'll need to do 2 hours tennis on Saturday" in response when she brings it up.

My current strategy is to encourage her to hang out with her friends during the day time (go shopping with them, have lunch etc.)

Just to emphasize, she doesn't demand time, I make plans to do stuff with friends on some weekends and theres no problem. She just takes up all weekend day time where I have nothing planned.

edit: Theres nothing wrong with meeting during the week. She doesn't sleep over during the week so its different to the weekend.
 

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vorbis said:
I'm thinking of taking up a weekend hobby just to keep some daytime to myself. Any ideas?
Hunting, fishing, shooting, trapping, etc.

That way, if she isn't interested, cool. If she IS interested... double cool!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Had this problem with my last LTR.

She lived 30 minutes away and got into a routine of staying at my place friday and saturday night when she didn't have to work the next day.

Same situation- sex was out of this world, she was never *****y or anything, but it kinda sucked not having a little of my weekend to myself. That's why I question if I could ever handle a marriage....
 

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what's wrong with saying to a woman "hey, I need some 'me' time"?

you can't "exactly" say that? why not? just say it.
 

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well saying you need some 'me' time is interpreted by women as you saying 'your starting to get on my nerves'

thats just reality.
 

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joekerr31 said:
well saying you need some 'me' time is interpreted by women as you saying 'your starting to get on my nerves'

thats just reality.
Bravo! :up:
 

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exactly. sane women can take a hint, even the needy ones. the rest of 'em.... show 'em the door.
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Nice thread...so how does one balance a gf who is really into you vs. keeping your independence and 'me' time?
 

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vorbis said:
Its not as afc as t sounds (at least I hope not)

Usually at the weekend, I just relax and don't do a whole lot (unless i plan a trip somewhere). I do some activities during the week, yoga, go to the gym, will be playing soccer soon as well.

So I meet my gf once during the week and thats grand. On Fridays though she stays over and well spends the entire weekend at my place. This ends up with me spending all the day time with her on Saturdays and Sundays. I still go out with my friends on Friday or Saturday night. She goes out with hers and sometimes I go out with hers or she goes out with mine.

But because she stays over for the weekend, I have no time to myself over the weekend. I might wish to spend a few hours just relaxing by myself in front of the tv. I can't exactly say "I don't want to hang out with you for a few hours, I want to be by myself"

She does treat me very well, has shown strong IL from the beginning. She cooks for me and is good in bed as well as suggesting new ideas :)

I'm thinking of taking up a weekend hobby just to keep some daytime to myself. Any ideas?
What the fuk are you going to do when you get married and she's with you 24/7? lol!
 

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LOL. Marriage and dating are two very different things. In marriage, 24/7 is mandatory...just have good ways of creating me-time! While dating, you can say stuff to be unavailable.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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The biggest mistake for a smart man dating is to establish "we'll see each other every weekend" schedule. Don't do that, you were fine having the whole weekend to yourself when you were single and so was she.
 

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Is she a fairly new gf?

It sounds to me like you haven't really adjusted to having an 'other half', because you see her once during the week, then Fri-Sat-Sun. That still leaves nearly half the week to do your own thing.

If you've been seeing her less than a couple of months then your comments are fair enough. But if it's serious and you've been together a while now, then it doesn't sound as if you like her as much as you might think. There's nothing wrong with having your girl next to you when you're relaxing and watching tv, just as long as she shuts up.

You don't have to say "I want some me time", because a lot of girls will get defensive about it. You simply tell her what you intend to do and if she decides to go do something else, then great.
 

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girl_in_a_boy_forum said:
"Honey, I love you, but I also need some time to myself everyday to just relax/not think."

As long as you don't say it in an accusing way ("You sap up all my time!"), I don't see how it could really bother her.
You don't see how it could really bother her??? How about insecurity. Clingyness. Jealousy. Dominance. There's plenty of reasons why it will and does bother women, few of those reasons based on anything logical.
 

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Charm said:
You don't see how it could really bother her??? How about insecurity. Clingyness. Jealousy. Dominance. There's plenty of reasons why it will and does bother women, few of those reasons based on anything logical.
And why in all that is holy would a guy choose to date a woman like this?!! :confused:
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
And why in all that is holy would a guy choose to date a woman like this?!! :confused:
ONS turns into TNS into dating into ooppss wtf did I get myself into...
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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