"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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GF broke up with me but wants to "date"

Don Juanabbe

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Originally posted by Sugarfoot
Did you even bother to read the other thread you started? Several people gave you sound advice on getting over her, yet you've started a thread on whether you should get back together with this wh0re in an "open relationship" (that is, giving her the green light to f*ck as many guys as she wants, while you stay home jerking off). This one, my friend, is pathetic!

You don't want advise. You want people to encourage your weak and codependent @ss to go back for more abuse. Are you sure you have a penis? Go ahead, get back together with her. That way, if you're ever fed up with her torturing you psychologically, you can come back here and post another thread saying how she dumped your effeminite @ss again. I'll be the first to write "Good. You deserved it you little b!tch!".


No TOOTLES™ for you.
This is a class post Viper, do yourself a favour - print it out and keep it in your wallet as a reminder.

Don't play the chump man, because, frankly, you seem to be acting like a chump, and that is what is eliciting this kind of behaviour from your girl.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Originally posted by Gangster Of Love
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She wants to scope out the men that are up for grabs, but still keep you under her thumb. She wants to keep you in the bullpen, while she finds herself a starting rotation of guys she can get attention/sex/etc. from. She will drop you and the whole idea of "we can still date" as soon as she finds somebody who she's interested in more than you, and that won't take long.
EXACTLY!
 

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Originally posted by Don Juanabbe
This is a good idea......BUT

Judging on the nature of his post, I don't think Viper has it in him to pull this off and remain detached.

No offense to Viper, but he's way too AFC at this juncture.
You're probably right, but there's always hope. :p

It's just another reason not to contract 'one-itis.' It would be much easier to do if he was seeing multiple women or was open to channeling his efforts elsewhere.
 

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I guess it is a good sign for my development as a DJ/real man/whatever you want to call it when I see how pathetic this kind of behavior is.

There is nothing wrong with falling in love with a woman, but if she treats you like this it is time to reconsider your "love."

In my opinion "love" is only love if it is mutual. Otherwise it is just infatuation, which is not healthy. That is what you have here.

Viper you need to go out and meet some new women. They aren't all dirty wh0res like this chic. And stop being an AFC, otherwise every woman you meet will treat you like this.
 

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(ok I initially posted this one in the wrong topic - I'm new so that's my excuse ;))

Hehe, gee, this is exactly what happened to me last november!
My gf ditched me all of a sudden, for "she didn't love me 100% anymore". This is the sh1ttiest line I ever heard, and I've heard a lot of them in my life. She also tried to 'remain friends, and who knows... sometime, far, far away in the future, MAYBE we could work something out again.'

F\/ck that d00d, no one with dignity would go for that... Wh0res just try turn you into a backup...

I got rid off her and I feel really good about it.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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This is what you do....

You agree to just dating....

Next time you go out, have fun - play that everything is fine...

Get her back to your place and fvck her.

Fvck the sh#t out of her.

Do every nasty little thing your heart desires.

Pull out and blow your load all over her.

Then, slap her on the A##, towel off - and tell her thanks for the great night and walk on out the door.

If you want to add insult to injury, after towelling off, tell her...

"You know I've been thinking. I don't think this open relationship is going to work.... thanks for the fvck though"


Grab your balls buddy - they are your friends. They are all you ever really have.
 

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I don't find your advice to be reasonable on account of Vipers feelings NewMan. Remember this AFC still "loves her". He couldn't do a thing you told him. And he won't either. Something tells me he's not going to listen to any of our advice because this girl is somehow "different" and she wouldn't do such a horrible thing. With those feelings involved comes the AFC mentality and he won't be able to take control of himself until he makes some real effort into getting rid of those feelings. This expirience is going to remain a scar for him for a looooonnnnng time to come. :(
 

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Are you a man? If you were, you'd cut all contact from her and do whatever you want. If she wants to go out with you SHE has to make grovel back to you. That is how breakups happen.

Whoever does the dumping, has to do the crawling.

SIMPLE?
 

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. don't find your advice to be reasonable on account of Vipers feelings NewMan. Remember this AFC still "loves her". He couldn't do a thing you told him



Agreed - but he SHOULD
 

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Originally posted by Don Juanabbe
"This is a good idea......BUT

Judging on the nature of his post, I don't think Viper has it in him to pull this off and remain detached.

No offense to Viper, but he's way too AFC at this juncture"





he is right man. I mean i said b4 that he was 2 afc from his other posts.
A. He does not have a strong enough backbone
B. He is making excuses for her
C. He is making excuses for himself
D. He is ignoring all the good advice given
E. He does not want to give her up





Viper...... i know how you can end your AFC ways RIGHT NOW! I dont want to seem harsh but its the truh, and if you cant accept that, then there is no hope for ya buddy.

anywayz tell her its either all or nothing. You have feelings so having a **** buddy wont work because you will still maintain the feelings. And you know as soon as she finds another guy, your screwed man. You think "maby she will come back".......yeah maby, i mean i think she does like you, but she is not about to commit anylonger. She wants her single life back and wants to date more then you!

I'd be frank with her. Tell her you dont like being second rate......becase your not.... you considred her feelings....you respect her.....you were not an ******* to her. You deserve much more then to be treated like this.
Either she is with you are she is never seeing you again.

If you have the courage for this man...... you will not have the same trouble with woman ever again. You wont put up with their BS like you have with this one in the pst. IT ENDS NOW

if you do this...... me and all the guys will gain a lot of respect for you on the board. that may not mean much but i know 2 many guys that fall into the same pattern and it reapeats. Woman walk all over them.



so let me ask you something......are you a sidewalk or are you a MAN?



now go do it and good luck!




remeber NO **** BUDDY! while it seems a good idea you are 2 attached to her and have a severe case of oneitis. AVOID AT ALL COSTS!

cheers and best of luck
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Originally posted by NewMan
This is what you do....

You agree to just dating....

Next time you go out, have fun - play that everything is fine...

Get her back to your place and fvck her.

Fvck the sh#t out of her.

Do every nasty little thing your heart desires.

Pull out and blow your load all over her.

Then, slap her on the A##, towel off - and tell her thanks for the great night and walk on out the door.

If you want to add insult to injury, after towelling off, tell her...

"You know I've been thinking. I don't think this open relationship is going to work.... thanks for the fvck though"


Grab your balls buddy - they are your friends. They are all you ever really have.
a girl I know was giving her boyfriend head, and at the exact moment that he was busting on her face he dumped her.
 

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I'm going to draw an analogy to your situation here.

Lets say that last year you were the starting quarterback of your highschool football team. This year, it comes time for tryouts, and naturally you assume you will be the starting quarterback once again. However, after tryouts your coach tells you that not only are you no longer the starting quarterback, but you did not make the team at all. It makes you very upset to hear this.

Now it's a few days later, and you are still depressed about not being on the team. You get a call from your coach, and he tells you that even though he still doesn't want you as a quarterback, he still likes you and wants you to be the team's waterboy. Even though deep down in your mind you know that going from starting quarterback to waterboy is completely humiliating, you still want to be involved with the team in any way possible, so you say yes.

Now don't you think halfway through the season, when the quarterbacks on the team are getting all the attention, and you're sitting on the sidelines as the lowly waterboy, you're going to wish that you had just forgotten about football and tried out for a different team instead?
 

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if a girl says she is nto ready for a relationship, i think it must be BS because why would you not want one? i mean sure i do not have much experince to back this oppinion up but iv never said to my best freind oh im not ready to be freinds with anyone right now, please give me some time.
 

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very good analogy.





well i think this thread is now overbeaten. Viper knows what he must do. Now its a matter that you can do it man!
 

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This reminds me what i said to an ex girlfriend, i was still banging her till i found a better girl and finally replaced her.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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