"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Getting too close

wakeboarder

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Well, I like this girl who has a boyfriend. She knows me and talks to me. The problem is that I'm afraid that if I start talking more to her she will put me in the friendzone. I don't want that because once she breaks up with her boyfriend I will ask her out (Who knows when that will happen, but it's not like I'm waiting on them). So should I stay away from her socially, you know, just stay away from friend status, or should I talk to her more and get to know her better? Any input would be helpful.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Well I had this situation, and I really messed it up. Well a little backround info. She had a boyfriend, I didn't know him, I saw in school a lot, got a lot of hugs, kisses on the cheek, etc.

So basically, I fell into the friend zone. What you have to do to avoid that is just keep dropping little hints to her, and make sure that she knows you are there. You are probably considered a friend even right now because she does have a boyfriend. Once (if) they break up anytime soon, you will be there and that is when you can really turn your game on. So just be flirty without over doing it and paying respect to her boyfriend. Keep her wanting to se more and more of you, and finally when she leaves her boyfriend you will be golden.

Another thing I could never figure out though it how long after the boyfriend is gone.. Well good luck.
 

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How about instead of waiting an uncertain amount of time, why dont you find some other girls to talk to and live your own damn life.
 

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I have other girls to talk to. I just wanted advice on this situation. Thanks
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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