"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I've had a friend now for about two years and in november we decided to have sex. We never actually talked about it, it was like a body language conversation more or less. But to make this short and simple. She wants sex again, I'm seeing the body language and I'm communicating back in a strong positive way but my question is this: Why don't we just cut the bs and go ahead and have sex?
I asked a friend of mine (a girl) what she thought about this. She's the one who introduced me to the system. She kinda reminds me of the oracle off of the matrix. She kinda looks like her too only younger. Anyway, she said she would only give me a hint. She said it had something to do with being honest and thats all she would say.
Does she really expect me to walk up and say "Look, let's cut the bull****, I know you want it, you know I want it, lets screw." ?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Why don't we just cut the bs and go ahead and have sex?

I asked a friend of mine (a girl) what she thought about this.

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OK...

Two things here...

1) I think you answered your own question...make the move and cut the BS...

"Your Move"

2) Don't ever ask "women" advice about "women"....Want to f!@# yourself reall good then that is a true blue way to do it.

I surely hope also that she is not mutual friends with this woman because keep in mind women hang tight...

Like in "Packs"...
 

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Dude just pretend to open the radio but open the cassete going "You and me baby we are nothing but mammals so lets do it like they do it on the discovery channel." And stare at her with sexual intentions.
 
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2) Don't ever ask "women" advice about "women"....Want to f!@# yourself reall good then that is a true blue way to do it.
I knew someone would say something about that. She is a once in a life time friend. The kind of friend most people don't have the luxury of having. She started baby feeding me Don Juan before I ever knew that this website existed, and as far as what is said between her and I, nothing has left our conversations and I've confided in her for 4 years now. I think she's safe ;-). Thanks for the first bit of advice though. I guess I knew it but needed to hear it from a fellow don juan.
 

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It's okay , the both of you are teenage morons. Within 5+ years of maturing this won't ever happen again.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Originally posted by BrokenTrustDrummer
I knew someone would say something about that. She is a once in a life time friend. The kind of friend most people don't have the luxury of having. She started baby feeding me Don Juan before I ever knew that this website existed, and as far as what is said between her and I, nothing has left our conversations and I've confided in her for 4 years now. I think she's safe ;-). Thanks for the first bit of advice though. I guess I knew it but needed to hear it from a fellow don juan.
No problem...

Just keep the latter piece of "advice" for later on down the line...
 

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It's easy to say that you'd rather cut the BS but would you?
Wouldn't it be rather clumsy and awkward to say, "we both want it so now lets screw" ?? What do you do then? All of a sudden become super heated from that one bland statement and fall on each other in a passion?? I don't think so. I picture more of an awkward scene after you say that. "Ok, soo...now that's been said....we're going....to have sex now...I guess."

Being obvious and factual=boring and not smooth. And I think that the build up of seduction and tension is for your pleasure as well as hers. If you think that enough tension has built up and you don't want to mess around anymore, why not just caveman her when you're hanging out? Get to teasing her and then throw her over your shoulder and take her into your bedroom. Or lead her by the hand into the bedroom. Body language seems to be working for you better than talking so why not stick to that?

I think what your friend is saying is that you don't make your statement because the GIRL may not give you an honest answer. She could say that she doesn't want sex to avoid being looked at as a slut or just someone you can use for sex.
 

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You don't say/ask it that way...

You have to be "tactful"...

Friends that long goes a long way

You don't say lets have sex...

You just subtly start flirting...and go from there...

It works...I've done it...
 

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I didnt know you were cheating *think about it* but just want you to know AlwaysExcel is right.
:rolleyes:
 

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I didn't know you were cheating *think about it* but just want you to know AlwaysExcel is right.
:rolleyes:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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