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Yeah, she's bangable. But not like long-term rotation material. Really really cute face. Nose ring. But she smoked about 3 cigarettes in the 30 minutes we were talking at my table.

I offered her a breath mint and she goes, "No thanks. I'm probably gonna have another cigarette."

Still, I had about 5 drinks in me and was feeling real good about myself...so we kissed and all that, but yeah, I woke up this morning (er...afternoon) and was like, 'ehhh...' "

That was so damn easy....Look at you over here going after low quality girl that smokes and has a nose ring lmao.

I don't go for women that smoke cigarettes lmao
 

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All interactions with women should start with sex. After you've banged her multiple times and she is displaying the right behavior then you can think about upgrading her.

Starting your interactions with women from a "I want a relationship" position is a very bad idea. Aside the reasons you've already listed, if a girl knows you are looking for a relationship then she gets turned off because she sees you as needy.
How do you deal with a woman who says she’s looking for a relationship then?
 

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No you don’t.

You created a thread where you were all panicky about your “girlfriend” meeting your folks.

You’ve also created a thread whining about not being able to get a second date with women.

Post a picture of yourself with one of these “girlfriends” of yours.
what thread of her meeting folks?

Second dates are harder to get then you think. Sorry I'm not going after single mom nose ring chicks that chain smoke. My complains comply with the chicks I am going after. Jesus christ I didn't get a second date with a 9/10 alpha widow chick that used to date a NFL player. DANG I"M shocked
 

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Yeah. There's a huge number of high quality simps with money in Sydney that are ruining women.

Most women expect you to take them to a restaurant on a first date here, because they've been conditioned by pay pigs.

The only way around this is to lure her out for a coffee date, or a drinks date and then seduce in person. I have a nice car too so sometimes I'll offer to pick her up. These are my solutions, but many girls will insist on elaborate first dates.
Do you really think it's the guys with money that are having the most success?

I honestly have no idea what people do. I don't even desire to go on dates.
 

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and I know a guy that thinks exactly like you and has literally been cheated on in the most horrifying ways in every relationship he has been in
Wait, I forgot what we are complaining about. Not being able to find a relationship quality woman?

My point is that all relationships should start with sex. Yes, even with the good girls.

Where do you want to be? With a girl that is attracted to you enough that she couldn't wait, or with one that you had to wear down over time and negotiate desire with?

Sex ASAP, then if she's not what you're looking for, NEXT. If she is, keep banging her and wait for her to bring up a relationship. But having to wait for sex does not make her high quality, and banging the first night does not make her low quality/low hanging fruit.
 

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Do you really think it's the guys with money that are having the most success?

I honestly have no idea what people do. I don't even desire to go on dates.
I mean there's Me Too, there's celeb divorces, there's this


If you think money and looks protects you from women than you are literally putting your head in the sand my friend.
 

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I mean there's Me Too, there's celeb divorces, there's this


If you think money and looks protects you from women than you are literally putting your head in the sand my friend.
I love it how you post here like you're the voice of reason, and you're teaching us so much.
 

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How do you deal with a woman who says she’s looking for a relationship then?
Most women say they are looking for relationships, and then go out and get pumped and dumped by Chad.

Don't listen to what women say they want. They have no idea.
 

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Do you really think it's the guys with money that are having the most success?

I honestly have no idea what people do. I don't even desire to go on dates.
Here's the hierarchy as I see it:

1. Game
2. Looks/Money/Status
 

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Why are you so horrifically, pessimisticly, negative?

The world isn’t out to get you.

Calm down.
I have to disagree with you here, man.

The world is definitely out to get men. The world does not want men to succeed. The whole system is rigged against you. It's not being pessimistic to be aware of this. RedPill is about acknowledging the challenges we face as men, and trying to overcome them.
 

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I have to disagree with you here, man.

The world is definitely out to get men. The world does not want men to succeed. The whole system is rigged against you. It's not being pessimistic to be aware of this. RedPill is about acknowledging the challenges we face as men, and trying to overcome them.
I understand this, but there's no need to have his mindset, which is -

Women are evil. She's out to get you. Be cautious. She's soooo evil. Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!

It's one thing to be aware of this. But no need to make this the focal point of all your threads/posts.

This dude's gonna wake up one morning pissing blood and crapping into a plastic bag, with all the complaining he does.
 

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Most women say they are looking for relationships, and then go out and get pumped and dumped by Chad.

Don't listen to what women say they want. They have no idea.
Yes I know that, but I’ve tried calling them out before or said things like “I don’t believe you” or whatnot but they just double down or block me. So how do you deal with that? Or is that response by her simply a sign she sees me as beta?
 

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How do you deal with a woman who says she’s looking for a relationship then?
Pay little attention to what women say, focus on their actions more. Its her actions that should tell you she wants a relationship, not her mouth.

Millions of men have ignored major red flags at their own peril because they listened to what women said to them.
 

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Pay little attention to what women say, focus on their actions more. Its her actions that should tell you she wants a relationship, not her mouth.

Millions of men have ignored major red flags at their own peril because they listened to what women said to them.
The game was sold to him
 

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Yes I know that, but I’ve tried calling them out before or said things like “I don’t believe you” or whatnot but they just double down or block me. So how do you deal with that? Or is that response by her simply a sign she sees me as beta?
Don’t call her out. Just be the guy she does mean it with. If you’re not for whatever reason, move on.

“I don’t believe you” or calling her out is negotiating desire. You don’t want that. If you don’t believe her but you’re getting sex, keep doing it but take it at face value. When you stop getting something you want in return, calling her out won’t change anything so walk away.

*sorry for all the edits, I’ve had a couple whiskeys
 
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