"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Getting phone numbers infront of friends

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So I came across a rather peculiar situation today... Normally I will be fine with getting girls phone numbers 1 on 1 but this stumped me real bad. I knew this girl from my math class in uni and she was with a bunch of male orbiters. We're all in the same class and apparently these guys don't take too kindly to me (one of them even referred to me to the girl as 'your friend'.' Did try to be friendly with these people but they see me as competition or whatever.

So we just finished our finals and the girl calls me over to ask about how the test went etc, could feel the tension these guys had when I approached her. I really wanted to number close her right there infront of these guys but I was too pvssy about it and my gut told me it wasn't the right time. I took my leave after some small talk as it was very hard to isolate her.

I believe I can number close this girl if I manage to catch her alone and my game is not up to par to handle such stuff yet. Advice how can I go about such situations in the future to successfully number close a girl infront of her friends? Partiularly if she is surrounded by guys?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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sounds like she is just enjoying the attention she's getting and thetension that's uilding around her. Chicks like to be all controversial and interesting and stuff u know. That's why she's giving you a mind-****. If she liked you she would talk to you without her jealous orbiter friends around and give you the opportunity to number-close.

She doesn't seem to be making it very easy for you.
 

Konada

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Chamber36 said:
sounds like she is just enjoying the attention she's getting and thetension that's uilding around her. Chicks like to be all controversial and interesting and stuff u know. That's why she's giving you a mind-****. If she liked you she would talk to you without her jealous orbiter friends around and give you the opportunity to number-close.

She doesn't seem to be making it very easy for you.
True that. It always slips my mind that interested women won't confuse you.
 

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If she's not interested in chatting to you 1-on-1 then she's not interested.

Give her the cold shoulder and you'll soon find she warms up and starts chasing you. Don't be another 'orbiter'
 

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Konada said:
True that. It always slips my mind that interested women won't confuse you.
Nismo-4 has always said that... It's so true. Make sure you stamp that into your brain when interacting with women!
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Do you really want to go out with a girl who surrounds herself with a thicket of orbiters?
 

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She doesn't seem as some good opportunity. :)
I think she likes the attention of many guys. So, find another one.
 

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A lot of chicks at college are bull****. I don't know what they're thinking really but they just like to have tons of orbiters.

I remember at the start of the first year I started mackin on some black chick. Pretty early on I asked her if she would visit me in Amsterdam and I show her around (she is from foreign). She said no. Few months later I got her 1-on-1. I asked her again, figured she needed to get her sh!t in order or something. She refused again.

I had her privately next to me at nighttime on a bench in a park, it was almost romantic, except for the part that she was whoring for attention. If I was more AFC I might have tried a kiss-close and got rejected. But I can tell from body-language nowadays what a girl wants.

These girls just like attention, and I swear 90% of dudes can't see through it
 

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Chamber36 said:
A lot of chicks at college are bull****. I don't know what they're thinking really but they just like to have tons of orbiters.

I remember at the start of the first year I started mackin on some black chick. Pretty early on I asked her if she would visit me in Amsterdam and I show her around (she is from foreign). She said no. Few months later I got her 1-on-1. I asked her again, figured she needed to get her sh!t in order or something. She refused again.

I had her privately next to me at nighttime on a bench in a park, it was almost romantic, except for the part that she was whoring for attention. If I was more AFC I might have tried a kiss-close and got rejected. But I can tell from body-language nowadays what a girl wants.

These girls just like attention, and I swear 90% of dudes can't see through it.
Yuuup, I know this one chick that posts all the time on IG about how she cant find a guy. Has 2200 followers and a bunch of them are guys constantly hitting on her. Shes just loving the attention and guys dont see it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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dk1990S111 said:
Yuuup, I know this one chick that posts all the time on IG about how she cant find a guy. Has 2200 followers and a bunch of them are guys constantly hitting on her. Shes just loving the attention and guys dont see it.
That's like a game of hide-and-seek with a toddler:

Where are you???!? I can't fiiiind yooouuu???

And the toddler is all excited :p
 
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