"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Getting phone numbers infront of friends

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So I came across a rather peculiar situation today... Normally I will be fine with getting girls phone numbers 1 on 1 but this stumped me real bad. I knew this girl from my math class in uni and she was with a bunch of male orbiters. We're all in the same class and apparently these guys don't take too kindly to me (one of them even referred to me to the girl as 'your friend'.' Did try to be friendly with these people but they see me as competition or whatever.

So we just finished our finals and the girl calls me over to ask about how the test went etc, could feel the tension these guys had when I approached her. I really wanted to number close her right there infront of these guys but I was too pvssy about it and my gut told me it wasn't the right time. I took my leave after some small talk as it was very hard to isolate her.

I believe I can number close this girl if I manage to catch her alone and my game is not up to par to handle such stuff yet. Advice how can I go about such situations in the future to successfully number close a girl infront of her friends? Partiularly if she is surrounded by guys?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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sounds like she is just enjoying the attention she's getting and thetension that's uilding around her. Chicks like to be all controversial and interesting and stuff u know. That's why she's giving you a mind-****. If she liked you she would talk to you without her jealous orbiter friends around and give you the opportunity to number-close.

She doesn't seem to be making it very easy for you.
 

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Chamber36 said:
sounds like she is just enjoying the attention she's getting and thetension that's uilding around her. Chicks like to be all controversial and interesting and stuff u know. That's why she's giving you a mind-****. If she liked you she would talk to you without her jealous orbiter friends around and give you the opportunity to number-close.

She doesn't seem to be making it very easy for you.
True that. It always slips my mind that interested women won't confuse you.
 

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If she's not interested in chatting to you 1-on-1 then she's not interested.

Give her the cold shoulder and you'll soon find she warms up and starts chasing you. Don't be another 'orbiter'
 

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Konada said:
True that. It always slips my mind that interested women won't confuse you.
Nismo-4 has always said that... It's so true. Make sure you stamp that into your brain when interacting with women!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Do you really want to go out with a girl who surrounds herself with a thicket of orbiters?
 

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She doesn't seem as some good opportunity. :)
I think she likes the attention of many guys. So, find another one.
 

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A lot of chicks at college are bull****. I don't know what they're thinking really but they just like to have tons of orbiters.

I remember at the start of the first year I started mackin on some black chick. Pretty early on I asked her if she would visit me in Amsterdam and I show her around (she is from foreign). She said no. Few months later I got her 1-on-1. I asked her again, figured she needed to get her sh!t in order or something. She refused again.

I had her privately next to me at nighttime on a bench in a park, it was almost romantic, except for the part that she was whoring for attention. If I was more AFC I might have tried a kiss-close and got rejected. But I can tell from body-language nowadays what a girl wants.

These girls just like attention, and I swear 90% of dudes can't see through it
 

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Chamber36 said:
A lot of chicks at college are bull****. I don't know what they're thinking really but they just like to have tons of orbiters.

I remember at the start of the first year I started mackin on some black chick. Pretty early on I asked her if she would visit me in Amsterdam and I show her around (she is from foreign). She said no. Few months later I got her 1-on-1. I asked her again, figured she needed to get her sh!t in order or something. She refused again.

I had her privately next to me at nighttime on a bench in a park, it was almost romantic, except for the part that she was whoring for attention. If I was more AFC I might have tried a kiss-close and got rejected. But I can tell from body-language nowadays what a girl wants.

These girls just like attention, and I swear 90% of dudes can't see through it.
Yuuup, I know this one chick that posts all the time on IG about how she cant find a guy. Has 2200 followers and a bunch of them are guys constantly hitting on her. Shes just loving the attention and guys dont see it.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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dk1990S111 said:
Yuuup, I know this one chick that posts all the time on IG about how she cant find a guy. Has 2200 followers and a bunch of them are guys constantly hitting on her. Shes just loving the attention and guys dont see it.
That's like a game of hide-and-seek with a toddler:

Where are you???!? I can't fiiiind yooouuu???

And the toddler is all excited :p
 
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