Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Getting out of the Friend Zone

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I have a little dilemma on my hands. I have recently come to grips that I have been put into the friend zone with a girl I have been gaming for a while and created attraction in. I had her in the attraction zone at one point and made out with her but for the past month it has been feeling more like I am in the friend zone rather than being looked at as a sexual man. I have read that the best way to get out of the friend zone is to stop all communication with her for a while then come back into her life as a new dominant alpha male that wasn't there when being put into the friend zone. My question is how long should I cut off all communication? By the way, this girl is an absolute mature 10 and has her **** together. She has already had numerous guys try to get out of the friend zone with her by spilling their feelings to her but it just scared her away. I don't want to be that guy but I want her to feel an emotional impact from me not communicating with her like I used to. We communicate with each other at least 3 times a week. Should I cut off ALL communication or should I cut it back to once every two weeks? I want to make sure that when I come back then I am having sex for sure. Any and all ideas are helpful.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Just remember that there are no guarrantee's, regardless of how "Alpha" you are.
How often do you see her then?
I would leave off initiating any contact with her, especially anything that makes you come across as approval seeking and just focus on yourself and what you want to do.

Get your stuff and life together, get out there and live with passion. Do different things, go different places and immerse yourself in something. You want to get people talking about you.
Work on your internal game and build yourself.
Next time you see her, she should feel your energy and passion and might be thinking, "Wow, there's something different about him". But if she doesn't, then big deal, you're out there enjoying life and there is plenty more fish in the sea.
 

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Trust me, many will agree. Its far easier to find someone new than it its to turn this around. Personally, I think if you do try this she will sense your motives from the word go.

The problem you have is she already knows you like her so unless you can really make it look like you've moved on then it won't work...unless you do actually move on which may peak her interest but art that point you'll gave someone better.
 

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yea i dont see you succeeding with your "plan" to go no contact and then come back and be this "alpha male" in her life to have sex with her
 

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Just dont do it. Once your in the friend zone its pretty damn hard to get out and usually not worth all the time and effort that it will take to get her feeling sexual about you. She will always think of you as someone who isnt sexual. Lets be honest here, why would you want her anyway? She already soft rejected you by putting you in the friendzone and now your begging her to be sexual towards you in some hope that she will "come around" and you two will live happily ever after.

This sh*t makes me sick!

We have all been friendzoned and we all have this little hope that we will get with this girl who friendzoned us but looking into reality it happens maybe 1% of the time. There was a POF post that someone posted where a girl who got banged multiple times over the years kept this guy as a friend with no sexual contact for 15 years! 15 YEARS! FIFTEEEEEEEN YEARS! And then she finally gave him a chance. FIFTEEN YEARS! KEEP RE-READING THAT! That will be you if you dont let this girl go , she clearly has already let you go for other guys.

So why dont you let her go for another girl ?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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All of this has been some excellent advice and exactly what I was looking for when posting. The interesting thing is that she has not been going out with any other guys during this whole time. How do I know? We created such a strong relationship that I was the first person she would talk to in the morning and the last person she would talk to before going to bed at 2 in the morning. This has not been the case ever since feeling "Friend Zoned" which could mean that now she is ****ing someone else. Who knows but I think everyone is right that it is easier to find someone new than wait around for this one that has all the qualities I am looking for.

Now my question is if I should cut off all access to communicating with me (IMs, Facebook, gChat, etc) and hide myself from her until she finds a way to communicate with me or do I keep her around but just leave it up to her to reach out to me instead of putting anymore time into this? Also, should I just confront her about the whole situation and call her out on the little game she has played then leave her with that feeling of "Wow I really ****ed up" or should I just leave it alone and move on without bringing attention to it?
 

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ArrJAy said:
Now my question is if I should cut off all access to communicating with me (IMs, Facebook, gChat, etc) and hide myself from her until she finds a way to communicate with me or do I keep her around but just leave it up to her to reach out to me instead of putting anymore time into this? Also, should I just confront her about the whole situation and call her out on the little game she has played then leave her with that feeling of "Wow I really ****ed up" or should I just leave it alone and move on without bringing attention to it?
GHost her.. AKA you are gone...
If you confront her.. This is what will happen, she will take your sh!t eat it and spit it back in your face with a smile... This is why...Her emotional attachment is not as strong as yours.. She will see right through your attempt to strong arm her back into good graces.. During the middle of the argument you will actually see your script getting flipped on YOU and she will have ALL the power... You wil cowl like a weak dog, because she already has this over you, and after she has made her point and left you speechless you will reflect on how utterly retarded it was that you did that because you are now one notch lower if not more, on her I will bang him belt than you were 5 minutes before you opened your stupid mouth ..

I say this with complete love and experience.. I know that pang in your stomach is there.. but it goes away, and it will go away faster if you do not dangle around her..

Ghost her and be gone. Months from now you will thank us.
 

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AS someone who was "family zoned" (yes i'm d man who first got there,no NOT anyone else ,i was first :) ), i know how it feels...
i have been friend zoned, best friendzoned, brother zoned, son zoned(a mature woman once said she wants me as a son...true it happened) family zoned and d o0nly thing i havent got to is father zoned...(anyone got there yet?)
anyway in this situation you should let go,my experience says friend's zone is not worth it, your heart will break and your life will b miserable

let go of her, for your own good,i seriously mean it
 

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really switch you need to write all your cases for us to read, because i'm sure I don't want to do what you did :), jokes aside

op, forget the girl, go ghost and let her talk with you but don't lose much time talking with her, keep distance and go find another girl, she already told you she is not worthy of you so move on and find someone worthy, next time maybe if she get better you can give her a chance but don't consider that.

so you need to ignore her, find another girl, be happy, possible she will be unhappy but that was her choice :)
 

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Consider it a lost battle for now. What you can try is to conduct an 'interest experiment'. Start going colder and colder progressively. When she asks, tell her you are/were busy. Lie your balls off if necessary. Tell her you were dating 2 girls, got into this, got into that, took a quick weekend trip here, took up this and am now studying that.

Gauge her reaction at this point. See what she says. If she feels offended that you had no time for her, you'll know she has some interest. If she could care less, well now you know, she doesn't give 2 sh!ts whether you live on the moon or not. Now might be your chance to start over and mack her differently.

Once again, this is very time consuming and may have results unwanted, so do try and just find someone else. You really cannot do much about low sexual interest and YOU need to Friend Zone her at this point.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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