"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Getting out of the friend zone

bignick79

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Evening Gentlemen!

Here's the problem, this female friend (and I hate saying friend, but thats the truth of the matter) we've gone out several times and I seem to have made some headway in breaking though the just friends syndrome. The physical contact has increased greatly, meaning holding hands, eye contact, even just standing there, she is making some form of contact with me. So i definately feel good that I'm getting out of the friend zone.

Also, i've tried to build some sexual tension with her, we had a conversation that went like this: Talking about an bootleg movie

Me: That's illegal, im gonna turn you in
Her: I know, im a bad girl
Me: Yes u are and you must be punished!
Her: Are you going to do the punishing?
Me: You better believe it, and im not going to take it easy on you either.

So we've definately broke though and created some sexual tension. But I'm not sure i've done enough here. Any guys been in this boat and have any suggestions or ideas? Am I getting close here guys?? This is a new challenge for me and your opinions would be greatly appreciated.

BigNick
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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decades

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its time to fish or cut bait. the next time you are out with her make a definitive move on her. be direct. make a move so she knows what you really want from her. if she doesn't let you and says something like "i could never do that with you" its time to eject and don't look back. Make your move. Now.
 

Sinistar

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yup, any further interactions with her without showing s3xual desire (via actions, not words) will sink your ship and that word you struggled to use earlier ("friend") will be the word she's telling you next.
 

blackbelt2k

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off topic, but tell me how this went

So I caught this hb7 that is always smiling at me in the kitchen area...tell me how i did:

me: hey
hb7: hey
me: im sorry, i keep seeing you around, but haven't introduced myself, im __
[gives my hand]
her: im __
me: nice to meet you
[ then another hb7 from the office that smiles at me as well walks in]
me: hey, how are you
hb7_2: im good, you
...i make some comments about the water machine and coffee machine in this area, compared the other one on the floor...i get some laughs..hb7_2 leaves
me: [although im making my coffee, im giving/getting eye contact and smiles] so how long you worked here
she tells me how long she's here, where she's from, etc.. i establish our offices have something in common, cuz they are both hidden..
me: well i have to go get some work done, it was nice meeting you ___
her: it was nice meeting you too

give me pointers so i can learn from my mistakes...
 

backbreaker

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I'm going to start talking in parables

The best way to get out of the friend zone is to never get in it.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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backbreaker said:
..The best way to get out of the friend zone is to never get in it.
Now that's what I'm talking about. Besides, the whole "bad girl who needs to be punished" is so cliche I'd be surprised if it created any real sexual tension. It could have been some simple harmless flirting that she could have done with any of her guy acquaintances. Like the other said, let's see some action and stop playing games.
 

PrinceBeavis

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I dunno. Seems to me, there has to be something more drastic than that "bad-girl-punished" line.
 
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