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wow that was amazing.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
GaryUranga said:then again Im good looking
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
It's so funny. not because what he said doesnt work or does work... just cuz its a two year old thread and hes the poster... defending it still to this day.disciple said:^^^what he just said^^^
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
so heres the point.disciple said:Lately, there seems to be alot of discussion on HB10's and dimes and how to get your "dream girl".
Of course, what that dream girl is depends on your own tastes and preferences.
That being said, this is how you get a really attractive woman to chase you and also become the envy of all the guys in your Friday night chess club (hahaha!!!).
First off, understand that good looking chicks are so used to men bowing down to them and CHOOSING them automatically that they start to expect EVERY GUY to do this.
I once read that women are five times better at naturally reading body language than men are.
That's why 99% of the time a women can tell right away if a man has chosen her by reading his eyes or eye contact and his body language, not to mention the fact that most guys make their interest obvious through their behavior and also by the drool hanging from their mouths.
Girls who are exceptionally attractive automatically put 99% of the guys they meet or see into this huge category of male worshippers.
But when a man comes along that isn't fazed by her beauty (or booty) and DOES NOT CHOOSE her immediately because she looks good in some tight jeans, guess what happens?
She starts to wonder, "Why doesn't this guy just automatically choose me because I look good like all the rest"?
Now she is curious. She doesn't know anything about you(assuming you play it cool and remain mysterious). You become a puzzle that she has to solve.
She now becomes extremely insecure because her self-esteem is based on her looks and the approval she gets because of her looks but you don't seem to be fazed by that at all.
In her mind, she now has to "win you over" and gain your approval that she is indeed "gorgeous". Then her little world will be okay again.
So what happens next? She starts to CHASE YOU. You have now become a prize she "has" to win and a puzzle she has to "solve".
The great thing about this technique is that the better looking the chick, the better it works. Isn't that great?
Remember, the higher you are, the harder the fall. When you knock her off of that pedestal, she WILL fall hard. Fall hard for YOU, that is.
In my own experience, what usually happens is you'll catch her giving you sideways glances and sneak peeks although the bolder ones will give you plenty of strong, direct eye contact. Some will even approach you right away.
If your getting eye contact and any other choosing signs at this point, let the game begin.
Very often, the girl will find a way to "bump into you" or just happen to be in your area.
She may ask you a casual question like what time is it or sometimes the bolder ones will ask you what your name is or where you live or something.
Now, this is very important. When she starts asking you questions about yourself (remember your still a puzzle), don't do like most guys do and f*cking tell your life story.
Remember the mysterious thing?
Keep your answers brief and as short as possible and then turn the conversation back on her by asking your own questions based on little "seeds" of information she gives you.
Check out Allen Thompson's article on Conversating for Maximum Attraction in the Articles or Quick Tips section for more information.
You have to let the mystery of you unfold SLOWLY (then again, even if you dated her for 10 years you should still be hard to read and figure out).
I'll stop here, but of course there are more steps to getting from her initial interest to the bedroom but there's enough information in other posts and on the rest of this site for all of that.
"The strong rule the weak but the wise rule the strong." I'm out.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Stop the KBJ.disciple said:Lately, there seems to be alot of discussion on HB10's and dimes and how to get your "dream girl".
Of course, what that dream girl is depends on your own tastes and preferences.
That being said, this is how you get a really attractive woman to chase you and also become the envy of all the guys in your Friday night chess club (hahaha!!!).
First off, understand that good looking chicks are so used to men bowing down to them and CHOOSING them automatically that they start to expect EVERY GUY to do this.
I once read that women are five times better at naturally reading body language than men are.
That's why 99% of the time a women can tell right away if a man has chosen her by reading his eyes or eye contact and his body language, not to mention the fact that most guys make their interest obvious through their behavior and also by the drool hanging from their mouths.
Girls who are exceptionally attractive automatically put 99% of the guys they meet or see into this huge category of male worshippers.
But when a man comes along that isn't fazed by her beauty (or booty) and DOES NOT CHOOSE her immediately because she looks good in some tight jeans, guess what happens?
She starts to wonder, "Why doesn't this guy just automatically choose me because I look good like all the rest"?
Now she is curious. She doesn't know anything about you(assuming you play it cool and remain mysterious). You become a puzzle that she has to solve.
She now becomes extremely insecure because her self-esteem is based on her looks and the approval she gets because of her looks but you don't seem to be fazed by that at all.
In her mind, she now has to "win you over" and gain your approval that she is indeed "gorgeous". Then her little world will be okay again.
So what happens next? She starts to CHASE YOU. You have now become a prize she "has" to win and a puzzle she has to "solve".
The great thing about this technique is that the better looking the chick, the better it works. Isn't that great?
Remember, the higher you are, the harder the fall. When you knock her off of that pedestal, she WILL fall hard. Fall hard for YOU, that is.
In my own experience, what usually happens is you'll catch her giving you sideways glances and sneak peeks although the bolder ones will give you plenty of strong, direct eye contact. Some will even approach you right away.
If your getting eye contact and any other choosing signs at this point, let the game begin.
Very often, the girl will find a way to "bump into you" or just happen to be in your area.
She may ask you a casual question like what time is it or sometimes the bolder ones will ask you what your name is or where you live or something.
Now, this is very important. When she starts asking you questions about yourself (remember your still a puzzle), don't do like most guys do and f*cking tell your life story.
Remember the mysterious thing?
Keep your answers brief and as short as possible and then turn the conversation back on her by asking your own questions based on little "seeds" of information she gives you.
Check out Allen Thompson's article on Conversating for Maximum Attraction in the Articles or Quick Tips section for more information.
You have to let the mystery of you unfold SLOWLY (then again, even if you dated her for 10 years you should still be hard to read and figure out).
I'll stop here, but of course there are more steps to getting from her initial interest to the bedroom but there's enough information in other posts and on the rest of this site for all of that.
"The strong rule the weak but the wise rule the strong." I'm out.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.