"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Getting girls, but not the ones I WANT...Last night FR too

Fumbduck

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First off, a toxic LTR relationship will destroy your DJ progress. Such a mindtrip BPD women can lead you on! Glad to be out of that nightmare...getting back in the swing of things once again.

Self Assessment: 6'2", 200lbs, cut shape, attractive, funny personality, I consider myself to be of high value. I don't have a ton of friends, i'm very independent. Not a ****y arrogant guy by any means. I've been told i'm good looking, but it doesn't go to my head. Down to earth guy.

I do not have a girlfriend, but dating a few at the moment. Problem is, they aren't what I want. They are what is convenient, girls i've met, started talking to, one thing leads to another, and there you go. But the girls that I WANT, I don't have. This is a problem!

Field Report Last night:
A girl I know, super cute IMO invited me and a friend (my wing) to party with her and her two room mates at their house. This is the first time i'm making the trip to see and party with her specifically, so I was looking forward to the night.

Everything is going well, girl's laughing, i'm escalating kino, she's biting back, i'm playing with the fabric on her jeans, lol you know the playful stuff. Then we hit up the bar, negs, kino, run of the mill stuff. She's still receptive, so I continue to be playful throughout the whole evening playing drinking games and just hanging out. I was looking for a way to isolate my girl from the group, something dumb like "hey let's you and I go make a drink upstairs", and kiss her while her and I are alone. But the smooth opportunity for this never presented itself, so at the very end of the night I tried. It was not an ideal situation. Room mates were in different rooms, I sent my wing to the car lol, and I go to kiss her goodnight, i'm going for a legit kiss on the lips. At the last second she turned her cheek....damn :eek:

In reality, did she really turn the cheek? I don't know we were both tipsy, kinda rushed at this point in leaving. I came in on an angle, could it have looked like i did the cheek thing and she went along with it, sure. I'm not going to dwell on it, I didn't succeed this time. Will I try again? you bet! This wasn't the ideal situation, but you need to make your own luck. You'll create the perfect situation in your mind and wait for it to come, but chances are it won't come unless you make it. I didn't want to leave without at least trying to take it one step farther...tonight I failed.

I don't know if it's my wing, he's not the best looking guy in the world, but he can hold his own in a conversation with a girl. For some reason though, I'm starting to think the guy turns women OFF. He would just sit there at times, some of what he says is too ****y without the funny, too much of a negative towards the girl, and she'll laugh it off but really deep down is irritated. Know what I mean?

Conclusion:

So WTF haha :confused: Is my wingman a dud? Is he hurting my chances? Am I not escalating quickly enough? This is becoming a common issue, and I want to fix it!
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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RSanders219

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It sounds like you did everything right man. Maybe give us some more info on the girl? Maybe she's shy or just self conscious?
 

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Nah man you sound like you got it alright. DONT fall into the trap of losing your self-esteem when a girl gives you a hard time.

There's so much random stuff involved, so how do you conclude YOU did something wrong? Sadly that is how our mind works, if we don't succeed 2-3 times we instantly devalue ourselves. Don't give in bro, do something that cheers you up. Then go again.

Getting laid is not rocket science. As long you don't make an OBVIOUS AND DUMB mistake there's no reason to doubt yourself.
 
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