"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Getting free beers from women

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This is probably an interesting one and probably a powerful one to us guys if we master it as free beers from women would be ficken coooool.

This isn't about bragging about ego's or showing off but more of so how we can harness what we know or have experience to get more free beers

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I was c&f towards the bartender and also shared my necklace to her as she liked it and she thought it looked better on her and I got it back much much later as i thought she had left
Anyway I said 'how about u give me a beer and i'll let u wear my necklace', she started pouring me a beer and i started taking of my necklace and then she didnt ask for the necklace so here I was 'FREE BEER' and my necklace still on me

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then there was a girl who came sitting by me, i asked her name and maybe did some c&f and gave her a fake but funny name and then later I said 'Will you buy me a beer?' and she replied 'I dont normally do this but I will' and I had a free beer.


Interesting eh lets here some more stories, cummon i know u's have gotten free beers......

Ben
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I have a friend who swears by this and he's no stud. Everyone reckons it's bull****, but he says it just seems to stun them for a second and then they say 'ok then'.

He did say it doesn't automatically guarantee a shag.
 

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funny story

went to a bar one time with group of fairly good looking guys (6 of us altogether)

drink and drown, beer was free after you paid the cover, but the club was so packed it took forever to get a fricken beer.

So we lined up on both sides of the narrow aisle where ppl were walkin away from the bar with full beers in their hands. Evertime a girl or pair of girls would come along, we'd touch her arm and smile and ask her name, hometown, and other meaningless BS...

the other guys would immediately compliment her on her appearance and add to the BS.... Then quietly, one of us would ask for a tiny sip of beer since it was so hot. She would say sure and hand it over without looking. After his gulp, he'd pass it around till the cup was empty. As soon as the beer was gone our convo would end and we'd say nice to have met you and hand back the empty cup. She'd laugh as she knew she'd been had and make a U-turn and head back to the bar. We'd already be working on the next girl.

This worked amazingly well, almost as fast as they were leaving the bar, we were plucking their beer.... about a 90% success rate... that many guys all talking to her at once, it was like a deer frozen in the headlights, input overload and her brain couldn't function.
 

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There's an article about this on the sosuave front page. It's called Givers/Takers theory. You GIVE to the givers and you TAKE from the takers. I'm a giver type of person so when people buy me free lunch or get me free drinks I'm feel more happier than when I give away stuff like free drinks/food.

Take a taker like miss daddy's little princess , she gets things all the time. I once dated a girl like this and when I asked her to buy me drinks or if she can give me free money (a couple dollars) she would feel nervous and seemed hesitant on buying things for me. She failed my "investment" test. Which is a bad sign for any relationship.

Another girl that was a taker seemed surprise at me asking her to buy something smaller. later on I made her pay for a full expensive dinner ($50) in which I returned the favor months later.

Then there are girls that are GENUINE and do the giving/taking. You know those types.. if you buy them a drink, they'll buy one for you without saying anything. These types I enjoy giving cause eventually they re-invest back into you.
 

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There's a theory called reciprocity, where, you give something to someone (not nec. of any value) and they feel obliged to reciprocate. Cialdini '75

I tested this (in sales) and found there certainly are takers, and takers and takers.

On the whole though most people respond. Obviously it won't work buying a girl a drink, because they don't see it as you truley giving, they assume rightly or wrongly you want to curry favour for a shag. Hence why getting them to buy YOU a drink is more likely to work.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Alpine,

I like ur view on how buying a women drink may not or maybe viewed as getting in her pants whereas a woman buying a man drink does or does not suggest getting into her pants.

Ficken Good view.

Ben
 

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Re: funny story

Originally posted by Crank_It_Up
went to a bar one time with group of fairly good looking guys (6 of us altogether)

drink and drown, beer was free after you paid the cover, but the club was so packed it took forever to get a fricken beer.

So we lined up on both sides of the narrow aisle where ppl were walkin away from the bar with full beers in their hands. Evertime a girl or pair of girls would come along, we'd touch her arm and smile and ask her name, hometown, and other meaningless BS...

the other guys would immediately compliment her on her appearance and add to the BS.... Then quietly, one of us would ask for a tiny sip of beer since it was so hot. She would say sure and hand it over without looking. After his gulp, he'd pass it around till the cup was empty. As soon as the beer was gone our convo would end and we'd say nice to have met you and hand back the empty cup. She'd laugh as she knew she'd been had and make a U-turn and head back to the bar. We'd already be working on the next girl.

This worked amazingly well, almost as fast as they were leaving the bar, we were plucking their beer.... about a 90% success rate... that many guys all talking to her at once, it was like a deer frozen in the headlights, input overload and her brain couldn't function.

Lmao! haha that's brilliant!
 
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