"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I am still out of a job. Ridiculous. My skill sets are I am exxtremely fit and also good at dating both way above average compared to the average man. I havent even focused on dating as much as i did in college but im thinking of becoming REALLY good with women and putting my foucs on it not to get laid or get hotter girls but SOLELY for the purpose of making money teaching other men. Honestly would like to hear your guys opinion on this. Im going to do it regardless but would like some input.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Get into IF you seriously enjoy being of service to others/find that to be rewarding. Any vocation that requires working one on one with clients is frequently challenging, and you'll be quickly overwhelmed, if you get into such work PRIMAIRLY for fantasizes of near-instant wealth

Same way several million law grads each year burn out after a year or two on the job, upon discovering that real life's resemblance to Perry Mason, How To Get Away With Murder, Suits, or The Good Fight is more anemic than KStew's ability to pass for what's on display at this
particular show room
 

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when women ask you what your job is, what are you going to tell them ?
 

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Get into IF you seriously enjoy being of service to others/find that to be rewarding. Any vocation that requires working one on one with clients is frequently challenging, and you'll be quickly overwhelmed, if you get into such work PRIMAIRLY for fantasizes of near-instant wealth

Same way several million law grads each year burn out after a year or two on the job, upon discovering that real life's resemblance to Perry Mason, How To Get Away With Murder, Suits, or The Good Fight is more anemic than KStew's ability to pass for what's on display at this
particular show room
I'm very familiar with great things taking time. Not falling into get rich quick fantasies.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I'm very familiar with great things taking time. Not falling into get rich quick fantasies.
Terrific!!! As I also mentioned, get into this field primairly because you enjoy being of service and providing those who are in need with the tools to help themselves. You'll get burned out and frustrated otherwise
 

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Terrific!!! As I also mentioned, get into this field primairly because you enjoy being of service and providing those who are in need with the tools to help themselves. You'll get burned out and frustrated otherwise
Of course.. Ive actually heard horror stories from dating coaches and i am not suprised. If your really bad with women and i mean awful typically you have a lot of psycholgoical issues going on. Ive always said dating and pickup attracts and has the BEST of the best people you can find and also the weirdest mother ****ers ever.
 

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@Thebestthereeveris that's actually what I'm doing now.

Really good at getting laid, not so great at business. So maybe the business should be about getting laid.

I don't know how many women you've been with, or the quality of those women, but my recommendation to you would be to clean up your presentation.

Most of the responses and threads I read from you come across like Twitter posts or Facebook status updates; very impulsive, low-effort, quick posts filled with poor spelling and often absent of any punctuation.

I say this not to bash you, but because I don't think people would take you seriously when you're not good at articulating your thoughts on-screen.
 

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Of course...I've actually heard horror stories from dating coaches, and I am not surprised. If you're really bad with women, and I mean awful, typically, you have a lot of psychological issues going on. I've always said dating and pickup attracts and has the BEST of the best people you can find, and also the weirdest mother ****ers ever.
For example, I made a multitude of corrections in bold.
 

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I am still out of a job. Ridiculous.
The current job market is terrible in nearly every white collar field. Blue collar employment is holding up a little bit better right now.

SOLELY for the purpose of making money teaching other men.
That's a competitive space. Additionally, not many men are willing to pay large sums of money for individualized coaching. It's difficult to scale that business and make it financially worthwhile.

Even selling a book for $20-$30 is a difficult business model.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The current job market is terrible in nearly every white collar field. Blue collar employment is holding up a little bit better right now.



That's a competitive space. Additionally, not many men are willing to pay large sums of money for individualized coaching. It's difficult to scale that business and make it financially worthwhile.

Even selling a book for $20-$30 is a difficult business model.
I've applied to so many places lost count. I got offers obviously but pay is ass. Fml
 

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even people with jobs are feeling the heat. My company has gone insane, I am paranoid about ending up unemployed, and I am also applying for jobs too lol.
 

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Of course.. Ive actually heard horror stories from dating coaches and i am not suprised. If your really bad with women and i mean awful typically you have a lot of psycholgoical issues going on
Yeah, in any type of gig where you're coaching/counseling someone one on one, you'll be working with them at a low point in their life. Ergo, it pays to be passionate about serving others
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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even people with jobs are feeling the heat. My company has gone insane, I am paranoid about ending up unemployed, and I am also applying for jobs too lol.
People with jobs are feeling the heat. A lot of companies in a lot of different industries are announcing layoffs. Procter & Gamble announced a major layoff this morning. Procter & Gamble operates basic household brands. If they are laying off, it's a sign of broad economic weakness. The tech space has been known for layoffs (think Meta, Microsoft, etc). Southwest Airlines did a big layoff earlier this year due to long time mismanagement.

When a company lays off, the layoff survivors get anxious and it destroys morale at a company.

Male SMV is affected by layoffs, whereas female SMV is not affected by layoffs.

Males who aren't laid off but who work at companies where layoffs are happening can see their relationships/sex life go downhill due to anxiety/stress.
 

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@Thebestthereeveris that's actually what I'm doing now.

Really good at getting laid, not so great at business. So maybe the business should be about getting laid.

I don't know how many women you've been with, or the quality of those women, but my recommendation to you would be to clean up your presentation.

Most of the responses and threads I read from you come across like Twitter posts or Facebook status updates; very impulsive, low-effort, quick posts filled with poor spelling and often absent of any punctuation.

I say this not to bash you, but because I don't think people would take you seriously when you're not good at articulating your thoughts on-screen.
how are you viewing my twitter posts and facebook status?
 

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@Thebestthereeveris that's actually what I'm doing now.

Really good at getting laid, not so great at business. So maybe the business should be about getting laid.

I don't know how many women you've been with, or the quality of those women, but my recommendation to you would be to clean up your presentation.

Most of the responses and threads I read from you come across like Twitter posts or Facebook status updates; very impulsive, low-effort, quick posts filled with poor spelling and often absent of any punctuation.

I say this not to bash you, but because I don't think people would take you seriously when you're not good at articulating your thoughts on-screen.
Nevermind I see what you mean. I agree. But also some people resonate with the wild crazy approach. To be honest a lot of my game is gibberish and doing whatever the **** I want. I come across as different and interesting but I also know how to tone it down and be more "normal". I think girls like a wild spontaneous dude but also a guy who knows how to read the room and keep his **** together when the situation warrants it.
 

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Nevermind I see what you mean. I agree. But also some people resonate with the wild crazy approach. To be honest a lot of my game is gibberish and doing whatever the **** I want. I come across as different and interesting but I also know how to tone it down and be more "normal". I think girls like a wild spontaneous dude but also a guy who knows how to read the room and keep his **** together when the situation warrants it.
Sure, I'm just highlighting how you might come across to guys who are considering buying your services.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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